Through the Looking-glass by: Lewis Carroll

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Chapter 1 of through the Looking Glass through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll Looking Glass House One thing was certain that the white kitten had had nothing to do with was the black kitten's fault entirely, for the white kitten had been having its face washed by the old cat for the last quarter of an hour, and bearing it pretty well, considering, so you see that it couldn't have had any hand in the mischief. The way Dinah washed her children's faces was this. First she held the poor thing down by its ear with one paw, and then with the other paw she rubbed its face all over the wrong way, beginning of the nose, and just now, as I said, she was hard at work on the white kitten, which was lying quite still and trying to purr, no doubt feeling that it was all meant for its good. But the black kitten had been finished with earlier in the afternoon, and so while Alice was sitting curled up in a corner of the great armchair, half talking to herself and half asleep, the kitten had been having a grand game of romps with the ball of worsted. Alice had been trying to wind up and had been rolling it up and down till it had all come undone again, and there it was, spread over the hearthrug, all knots and tangles, with the kitten running after its own tail in the middle. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Oh, you wicked little thing. [00:01:46] Speaker A: Cried Alice, catching up the kitten and giving it a little kiss to make it understand that it was in disgrace. [00:01:54] Speaker B: Really, Dinah ought to have taught you better manners. You ought, Dinah, you know you ought. [00:02:00] Speaker A: She added, looking reproachfully at the old cat and speaking in as cross a voice as she could manage, and then she scrambled back into the armchair, taking the kitten and the worsted with her, and began winding up the ball again. But she didn't get on very fast as she was talking all the time, sometimes to the kitten and sometimes to herself. Kitty sat very demurely on her knee, pretending to watch the progress of the winding, and now and then putting out one paw and gently touching the ball as if it would be glad to help if it might. [00:02:42] Speaker B: Do you know what tomorrow is, Kitty? [00:02:44] Speaker A: Alice began. [00:02:46] Speaker B: You'd have guessed if you'd been up in the window with me, only Dinah was making you tidy so you couldn't. I was watching the boys getting in sticks for the bonfire, and it wants plenty of sticks, Kitty, only it got so cold and it snowed, so they had to leave off. Never mind, Kitty, we'll go and see the bonfire tomorrow. [00:03:12] Speaker A: Here Alice wound two or three turns of the worsted round the kitten's neck, just to see how it would look. This led to a scramble in which the ball rolled down upon the floor and yards and yards of it got unwound again. [00:03:28] Speaker B: Do you know, I was so angry. [00:03:30] Speaker A: Kitty, alice went on, as soon as they were comfortably settled again. [00:03:36] Speaker B: When I saw all the mischief you had been doing, I was very nearly opening the window and putting you out into the snow. And you'd have deserved it, you little mischievous darling. What have you got to say for yourself? [00:03:51] Speaker A: Now, don't interrupt me, she went on, holding up one finger. [00:03:56] Speaker B: I'm going to tell you all your faults. Number one, you squeaked twice while Dinah was washing your face this morning. Now, you can't deny it, Kitty. I heard you. What's that you say? [00:04:10] Speaker A: Pretending that the kitten was speaking. [00:04:13] Speaker B: Her paw went into your eye. Well, that's your fault for keeping your eyes open. If you'd shut them tight up, it wouldn't have happened. Now don't make any more excuses. But listen, number two, you pulled Snowdrop away by the tail just as I had put down the saucer of milk before her. [00:04:36] Speaker A: What? [00:04:36] Speaker B: You were thirsty, were you? How do you know she wasn't thirsty, too? Now for number three. You unwound every bit of the worsted while I wasn't looking. That's three faults, Kitty, and you've not been punished for any of them yet. You know, I'm saving up all your punishments for Wednesday week. Suppose they had saved up all my. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Punishments, she went on, talking more to herself than the kitten. [00:05:07] Speaker B: What would they do at the end of a year? I should be sent to prison, I suppose, when the day came. Or, let me see, suppose each punishment was to be going without a dinner. Then when the miserable day came, I should have to go without 50 dinners at once. Well, I shouldn't mind that much. I'd rather go without them than eat them. Do you hear the snow against the window panes, Kitty? How nice and soft it sounds. Just as if someone was kissing the window all over outside. I wonder if the snow loves the trees and fields, that it kisses them so gently and then it covers them up snug, you know, with a white quilt. And perhaps it says, go to sleep, darlings, till the summer comes again. And when they wake up in the summer, Kitty, they dress themselves all green and dance about whenever the wind blows. Oh, that's very pretty. [00:06:12] Speaker A: Cried Alice, dropping the ball of worsted to clap her hands. [00:06:17] Speaker B: I do so wish it was true. I'm sure the woods look sleepy in the autumn when the leaves are getting brown. Kitty, can you play chess. Now, don't smile, my dear. I'm asking it seriously. Because when we were playing just now, you watched just as if you understood it, and when I said check, you purred. Well, it was a nice cheque, Kitty, and really I might have won if it hadn't been for the nasty knight that came wiggling down among my pieces. Kitty, dear, let's pretend. [00:06:56] Speaker A: And here I wish I could tell you half the things Alice used to say, beginning with her favourite phrase, pretend. She had quite a long argument with her sister only the day before. All because Alice had begun with let's. [00:07:14] Speaker B: Pretend we're kings and queens. [00:07:18] Speaker A: And her sister, who liked being very exact, had argued that they couldn't, because there were only two of them. And Alice had been reduced at last to say, well, you can be one. [00:07:30] Speaker B: Of them then, and I'll be all the rest. [00:07:34] Speaker A: And once she had really frightened her old nurse by shouting suddenly in her. [00:07:40] Speaker B: Ear, nurse, do let's pretend that I'm a hungry hyena and you're a bone. [00:07:46] Speaker A: But this is taking us away from Alice's speech to the kitten. [00:07:50] Speaker B: Let's pretend that you're the Red Queen, Kitty. Do you know, I think if you sat up and folded your arms, you'd look exactly like her. Now, do try. There's a dear. [00:08:03] Speaker A: And Alice got the Red Queen off the table and set it up before the kitten as a model for it to imitate. However, the thing didn't succeed, principally, Alice said, because the kitten wouldn't fold its arms properly. So to punish it, she held it up to the looking glass that it might see how sulky it was. [00:08:27] Speaker B: And if you're not good directly, she added, ill put you through into Looking Glass House. How would you like that? Now, if you'll only attend Kitty and not talk so much, I'll tell you all my ideas about Looking Glass House. First, there's the room you can see through the glass. That's just the same as our drawing room, only that things go the other way. I can see all of it when I get upon a chair, all but the bit behind the fireplace. Oh, I do so wish I could see that bit. I want so much to know whether they've a fire in the winter. You never can tell, you know, unless our fire smokes. And then smoke comes up in that room too. But that may be only pretence, just to make it look as if they had a fire. Well, then the books are something like our books, only the words go the wrong way. I know that because I'VE held up one of our books to the glass and then they hold up one in the other room. How would you like to live in Looking Glass House, Kitty? I wonder if they'd give you milk in there. Perhaps Looking Glass milk isn't good to drink, but. Oh, Kitty. Now we come to the passage. You can just see a little peep of the passage in Looking Glass House if you leave the door of our drawing room wide open. And it's very like our passage as far as you can see. Only you know, it may be quite different on beyond. Oh, Kitty, how nice it would be if we could only get through into Looking Glass House. I'm sure it's got, oh, such beautiful things in it. Let's pretend there's a way of getting through into it somehow, Kitty. Let's pretend the glass has got all soft like gauze so that we can get through. Why, it's turning into a sort of mist now. I declare, it'll be easy enough to get through. [00:10:39] Speaker A: She was up on the chimney piece while she said this, though she hardly knew how she had got there. Uncertainly, the glass was beginning to melt away just like a bright silvery mist. In another moment, Alice was through the glass and had jumped lightly down into the Looking Glass Room. The very first thing she did was to look whether there was a fire in the fireplace, and she was quite pleased to find that there was a real one blazing away as brightly as the one she had left behind. [00:11:16] Speaker B: So I shall be as warm here. [00:11:18] Speaker A: As I was in the old room, thought Alice. [00:11:21] Speaker B: Warmer, in fact, because there'll be no one here to scold me away from the fire. Oh, what fun it'll be when they see me through the glass in here and can't get at me. [00:11:34] Speaker A: Then she began looking about and noticed that what could be seen from the old room was quite common and uninteresting, but that all the rest was as different as possible. For instance, the pictures on the wall next to the fire seemed to be all alive. And the very clock on the chimney piece, you know, you can only see the back of it in the looking glass had got the face of a little old man grinning at her. [00:12:03] Speaker B: They don't keep this room so tidy. [00:12:05] Speaker A: As the other, Alice thought to herself, as she noticed several of the chessmen down on the hearth among the cinders. But in another moment, with a little oh of surprise, she was down on her hands and knees watching them. The chessmen were walking about 2 and 2. [00:12:27] Speaker B: Here are the Red King and the. [00:12:29] Speaker A: Red Queen, Alice said in a whisper for fear of frightening them. [00:12:35] Speaker B: And there are the White King and the White Queen sitting on the edge of the shovel. And here are two castles walking arm in arm. I don't think they can hear me. [00:12:47] Speaker A: She went on as she put her head closer down, and I'm nearly sure. [00:12:52] Speaker B: They can't see me. I feel somehow as if I were invisible here. [00:13:00] Speaker A: Something began squeaking on the table behind Alice and made her turn her head just in time to see one of the white pawns roll over and begin kicking. She watched it with great curiosity to see what would happen next. [00:13:16] Speaker B: It's the voice of my child. [00:13:18] Speaker A: The White Queen cried out as she rushed past the King so violently that she knocked him over among the cinders. My precious lily, my imperial kitten. And she began scrambling wildly up the side of the fender. Imperial fiddlestick, said the King, rubbing his nose, which had been hurt by the fall. He had a right to be a little annoyed with the Queen, for he was covered with ashes from head to foot. Alice was very anxious to be of use, and as the poor little Lily was nearly screaming herself into a fit, she hastily picked up the Queen and set her on the table by the side of her noisy little daughter. The Queen gasped and sat down. The rapid journey through the air had quite taken away her breath, and for a minute or two she could do nothing but hug the little Lily in silence. As soon as she had recovered her breath a little, she called out to the White King, who was sitting sulkily among the ashes. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Mind the volcano. [00:14:28] Speaker C: I want it. [00:14:29] Speaker A: Volcano, said the King, looking up anxiously into the fire as if he thought that was the most likely place to find one. Blow me up, panted the Queen, who was still a little out of breath. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Mind you, come up the regular way. Don't get blown up. [00:14:49] Speaker A: Alice watched the White King as he slowly struggled up from bar to bar, till at last she said, why, you'll. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Be hours and hours getting to the table at that rate. I'd far better help you, hadn't I? [00:15:04] Speaker A: But the King took no notice of the question. It was clear that he could neither hear nor see her. So Alice picked him up very gently and lifted him across more slowly than she had lifted the Queen that she mightn't take his breath away. But before she put him on the table, she thought she might as well dust him a little. He was so covered with ashes, she said afterwards, that she had never seen in all her life such a face as the King made when he found himself held in the air by an invisible hand and being dusted he was far too much astonished to cry out, but his eyes and his mouth went on getting larger and larger and rounder and rounder, and till her hand shook so with laughter that she nearly let him drop upon the floor. [00:16:00] Speaker B: Oh, please don't make such faces, my. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Dear, she cried out, quite forgetting that the King couldn't hear her. [00:16:08] Speaker B: You make me laugh so that I can hardly hold you. And don't keep your mouth so wide open, all the ashes will get into it. There, now, I think you're tidy enough. [00:16:20] Speaker A: She added, as she smoothed his hair and set him upon the table near the Queen. The King immediately fell flat on his back, and he lay perfectly still, and Alice was a little alarmed at what she had done, and went round the room to see if she could find any water to throw over him. However, she could find nothing but. But a bottle of ink, and when she got back with it, she found he had recovered, and he and the Queen were talking together in a frightened whisper so low that Alice could hardly hear what they said. The King was saying, I assure you. [00:17:02] Speaker C: My dear, I turned cold to the very ends of my whiskers. [00:17:07] Speaker A: To which the Queen replied, you haven't got any whiskers. [00:17:12] Speaker C: The horror of the moment, the King. [00:17:14] Speaker A: Went on, I shall never, never forget. You will, though, the Queen said, if. [00:17:21] Speaker B: You don't make a memorandum of it. [00:17:24] Speaker A: Alice looked on with great interest as the King took an enormous memorandum book out of his pocket and began writing. A sudden thought struck her, and she took hold of the end of the pencil, which came some way over his shoulder, and began writing for him. The poor King looked puzzled and unhappy and struggled with the pencil for some time without saying anything, but Alice was too strong for him, and at last he panted out, my dear, I really. [00:17:59] Speaker C: Must get a thinner pencil. I can't manage this one a bit. It writes all manner of things that I don't intend. [00:18:08] Speaker B: What manner of things? [00:18:09] Speaker A: Said the Queen, looking over the book in which Alice had put the White. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Knight is sliding down the poker. He balances very badly. That's not a memorandum of your feelings. [00:18:23] Speaker A: There was a book lying near Alice on the table, and while she sat watching the White King, for she was still a little anxious about him, and had the ink all ready to throw over him in case he fainted again. She turned over the leaves to find some parts that she could read, for. [00:18:41] Speaker B: It'S all in some language. [00:18:42] Speaker A: I don't know, she said to herself. It was like ich caulebais sevot itils et diner guillerb sot e bor et nie elb mig dinner. Erg d sevagorob et eru yismind la e batku sta imom et diner. She puzzled over this for some time, but at last a bright thought struck her. [00:19:18] Speaker B: Why, it's a looking glass book, of course. And if I hold it up to the glass, the words will all go the right way. [00:19:28] Speaker A: This was the poem that Alice read. Jabberwocky. Twas brillig and the slithy toes did gyre and gimble in the wabe all mimsy were the borrow groves and the mom rath's out grabe. Beware the Jabberwock, my son. The jaws that bite, the claws that catch. Beware the jubjub bird and shun the frumious Bandersnatch. He took his vorpal sword in hand Long time the manxome foe he sought. So rested he by the tum tum tree and stood awhile in thought, and as in uffish thought he stood. The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame Came whiffling through the tulgey wood and burbled as it came. [00:20:23] Speaker C: One, two, one, two. [00:20:25] Speaker A: And through and through the vorpal blade went snicker snack. He left it dead, and with his head he went galumphing back. [00:20:35] Speaker C: And hast thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy. O frabious day. Kalukale. [00:20:45] Speaker A: He chortled in his joy. Twas brillig and the slithy toes did gyre and gimble in the wabe all mimsy were the borrow gros and the mome rath's out grabe. It seems very pretty, she said when she had finished it, but it's rather hard to understand, you see. She didn't like to confess, even to herself, that she couldn't make it out at all. [00:21:16] Speaker B: Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas, only I don't exactly know what they are. However, somebody kills something. That's clear, at any rate. [00:21:30] Speaker A: But, oh, thought Alice, suddenly, jumping up. [00:21:34] Speaker B: If I don't make haste, I shall have to go back through the looking Glass before I've seen what the rest of the house is like. Let's have a look at the garden first. [00:21:45] Speaker A: She was out of the room in a moment and ran downstairs. Or at least it wasn't exactly running, but a new invention of hers for getting downstairs quickly and easily, as Alice said to herself. She kept the tips of her fingers on the handrail and floated gently down without even touching the stairs with her feet. Then she floated on through the hall. [00:22:13] Speaker B: And would have gone straight out at. [00:22:15] Speaker A: The door in the same way if she hadn't caught hold of the door post. She was getting a little giddy with so much floating in the air, and was rather glad to find herself walking again in the natural way. End of Chapter One Chapter two of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll the Garden of Live Flowers. [00:22:49] Speaker B: I should. [00:22:50] Speaker A: See the garden far better, said Alice to herself, if I could get to. [00:22:54] Speaker B: The top of the hill. And here's a path that leads straight to it at least. No, it doesn't do that, after going. [00:23:03] Speaker A: A few yards along the path and turning several sharp corners. [00:23:08] Speaker B: But I suppose it will at last. But how curious. It twists. It's more like a corkscrew than a path. Well, this turn goes to the hill, I suppose. No it doesn't. This goes straight back to the house. Well then I'll try it the other way. [00:23:28] Speaker A: And so she did, wandering up and down and trying turn after turn, but always coming back to the house do what she would indeed, once when she turned a corner rather more quickly than usual, she ran against it before she could stop herself. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Its no use talking about it, Alice. [00:23:49] Speaker A: Said, looking up at the house and pretending it was arguing with her. [00:23:54] Speaker B: I'm not going in again yet. I know. I should have to get through the looking glass again, back into the old room, and there'd be an end of all my adventures. [00:24:05] Speaker A: So resolutely turning her back upon the house, she set out once more down the path, determined to keep straight on till she got to the hill. For a few minutes all went on well, and she was saying, I really shall do it this time, when the path gave a sudden twist and shook itself as she described it afterwards, and the next moment she found herself actually walking in at the door. [00:24:35] Speaker B: Oh it's too bad. [00:24:37] Speaker A: She cried. [00:24:38] Speaker B: I never saw such a house for getting in the way. Never. [00:24:43] Speaker A: However, there was the hill full in sight, so there was nothing to be done but start again. This time she came upon a large flower bed with a border of daisies and a willow tree growing in the middle. Oh, Tiger Lily, said Alice, addressing herself to one that was waving gracefully about in the wind. [00:25:05] Speaker B: I wish you could talk. [00:25:07] Speaker A: We can talk, said the tiger Lily, when there's anybody worth talking to. Alice was so astonished that she could not speak for a minute. It quite seemed to take her breath away. At length, as the tiger lily only went on waving about, she spoke again in a timid voice, almost in a whisper, and can all the flowers talk as well as you can? Said the tiger lily, and a great deal louder. [00:25:41] Speaker B: It isn't manners for us to begin. [00:25:43] Speaker A: You know, said the rose, and I. [00:25:46] Speaker B: Really was wondering when you'd speak, said I to myself. Her face has got some sense in it, though it's not a clever one. Still, you're the right colour and that goes a long way. [00:25:59] Speaker A: I don't care about the colour, the tiger lily remarked. If only her petals curled up a little more, she'd be all right. Alice didn't like being criticised, so she began asking questions. [00:26:13] Speaker B: Aren't you sometimes frightened at being planted out here with nobody to take care of you? [00:26:19] Speaker A: There's the tree in the middle, said the rose. [00:26:23] Speaker B: What else is it good for? But what could it do if any danger came? [00:26:29] Speaker A: Alice asked. [00:26:31] Speaker B: It says Bow wow. [00:26:33] Speaker A: Cried a daisy. [00:26:34] Speaker B: That's why its branches are called boughs. Didn't you know that? [00:26:39] Speaker A: Cried another daisy. And here they all began shouting together till the air seemed quite full of little shrill voices. Silence, every one of you. Cried the tiger lily, waving itself passionately from side to side and trembling with excitement. They know I can't get at them, it panted, bending its quavering head towards Alice, or they wouldn't dare to do it. Never mind, Alice said in a soothing tone, and stooped down to the daisies who were just beginning again. She whispered, if you don't hold your. [00:27:18] Speaker B: Tongues, I'll pick you. [00:27:21] Speaker A: There was silence in a moment, and several of the pink daisies turned white. That's right, said the tiger lily. The daisies are worst of all. When one speaks they all begin together, and it's enough to make one wither to hear the way they go on. [00:27:38] Speaker B: How is it you can all talk so nicely? [00:27:41] Speaker A: Alice said, hoping to get into a better temper by a compliment. [00:27:46] Speaker B: I've been in many gardens before, but none of the flowers could talk. [00:27:51] Speaker A: Put your hand down and feel the ground, said the tiger lily. Then you'll know why Alice did so. Its very hard, she said, but I. [00:28:04] Speaker B: Don'T see what that has to do with it. [00:28:07] Speaker A: In most gardens, the tiger lily said, they make the beds too soft, so the flowers are always asleep. This sounded a very good reason, and Alice was quite pleased to know it. I never thought of that before, she said. [00:28:24] Speaker B: Its my opinion that you never think. [00:28:26] Speaker A: At all, the rose said in a rather severe tone. [00:28:31] Speaker B: I never saw anybody that looked stupider. [00:28:34] Speaker A: A violet said so suddenly that Alice quite jumped for it hadn't spoken before. Hold your tongue. Cried the tiger lily, as if you ever saw anybody? You keep your head under the leaves and snore away there till you know no more what's going on in the world than if you were a bud. [00:28:56] Speaker B: Are there any more people in the garden besides me? [00:28:59] Speaker A: Alice said, not choosing to notice the rose's last remark. [00:29:04] Speaker B: There's one other fly in the garden. [00:29:06] Speaker A: That can move about like you, said the rose. [00:29:10] Speaker B: I wonder how you do it. [00:29:12] Speaker A: You're always wondering, said the tiger lily. [00:29:16] Speaker B: But she's more bushy than you are. Is she like me? [00:29:20] Speaker A: Alice asked eagerly, for the thought crossed. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Her mind, there's another little girl in the garden somewhere. Well, she has the same awkward shape. [00:29:31] Speaker A: As you, the rose said, but she's. [00:29:34] Speaker B: Redder and her petals are shorter. [00:29:36] Speaker A: I think her petals are done up close. Almost like a dahlia, the tiger lily remarked, not tumbling about anyhow like yours. But that's not your fault, the rose added kindly. [00:29:51] Speaker B: You're beginning to fade, you know, and then one can't help one's petals getting a little untidy. [00:29:58] Speaker A: Alice didn't like this idea at all, so to change the subject, she asked. [00:30:03] Speaker B: Does she ever come out here? [00:30:06] Speaker A: I dare say you'll see her soon, said the rose. [00:30:09] Speaker B: She's one of the thorny kind. Where does she wear the thorns? [00:30:14] Speaker A: Alice asked with some curiosity. Why, all around her head, of course, the rose replied. [00:30:22] Speaker B: I was wondering you hadn't got some, too. I thought it was the regular rule. She's coming. [00:30:29] Speaker A: Cried the larkspur. I hear her footsteps thump, thump, thump along the gravel walk. Alice looked round eagerly and found that it was the Red Queen. She's grown a great deal, was her first remark. She had. Indeed, when Alice first found her in the ashes, she had been only three inches high, and here she was, half a head taller than Alice herself. It's the fresh air that does it, said the rose. [00:31:02] Speaker B: Wonderfully fine air it is out here. [00:31:05] Speaker A: I think I'll go and meet her, said Alice. For though the flowers were interesting enough, she felt that it would be far grander to have a talk with a real queen. You can't possibly do that, said the rose. [00:31:20] Speaker B: I should advise you to walk the other way. [00:31:23] Speaker A: This sounded nonsense to Alice, so she said nothing, but set off at once towards the Red Queen. To her surprise, she lost sight of her in a moment and found herself walking in at the front door again. A little provoked, she drew back, and after looking everywhere for the queen, whom she spied out at last, a long way off, she thought she would try the plan this time of walking in the opposite direction. It succeeded beautifully. She had not been walking a minute before she found herself face to face with the Red Queen and full in sight of the hill she had been so long aiming at. [00:32:08] Speaker B: Where do you come from? [00:32:10] Speaker A: Said the Red Queen, and where are you going? [00:32:13] Speaker B: Look up, speak nicely, and don't twiddle your fingers all the time. [00:32:18] Speaker A: Alice attended to all these directions and explained as well as she could that she had lost her way. [00:32:27] Speaker B: I don't know what you mean by. [00:32:30] Speaker A: Your way, said the Queen. [00:32:33] Speaker B: All the ways about here belong to me. But why did you come out here at all? [00:32:40] Speaker A: She added in a kinder tone, curtsy. [00:32:44] Speaker B: While you're thinking what to say. It saves time. [00:32:48] Speaker A: Alice wondered a little at this, but she was too much in awe of the Queen to disbelieve it. [00:32:53] Speaker B: I'll try it when I get home. [00:32:55] Speaker A: She thought to herself, the next time. [00:32:58] Speaker B: I'm a little late for dinner. It's time for you to answer now. [00:33:04] Speaker A: The Queen said, looking at her watch. [00:33:07] Speaker B: Open your mouth a little wider when you speak. And always say, your Majesty. I only wanted to see what the garden was like. Your Majesty. [00:33:18] Speaker A: That's right, said the Queen, patting her on the head, which Alice didn't like at all, though when you say garden I've seen gardens. [00:33:30] Speaker B: Compared with which this would be a wilderness. [00:33:34] Speaker A: Alice didn't dare to argue the point, but went and I thought I'd try. [00:33:39] Speaker B: And find my way to the top of that hill. [00:33:43] Speaker A: When you say hill, the Queen interrupted. [00:33:47] Speaker B: I could show you hills in comparison with which you'd call that a valley. [00:33:53] Speaker A: No, I shouldn't, said Alice, surprised into contradicting her at last. [00:34:00] Speaker B: A hill can't be of valley, you know. That would be nonsense. [00:34:04] Speaker A: The Red Queen shook her head. [00:34:07] Speaker B: You may call it nonsense if you. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Like, she said, but I've heard nonsense. [00:34:14] Speaker B: Compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Alice curtseyed again, as she was afraid from the Queen's tone that she was a little offended, and they walked on in silence till they got to the top of the little hill. For some minutes Alice stood without speaking, looking out in all directions over the country, and a most curious country it was. There were a number of tiny little brooks running straight across it from side to side, and the ground between was divided up into squares by a number of little green hedges that reached from brook to brook. [00:34:57] Speaker B: I declare it's marked out just like. [00:35:00] Speaker A: A large chess board, alice said at last. [00:35:04] Speaker B: There ought to be some men moving about somewhere. [00:35:07] Speaker A: And so there are, she added in a tone of delight. And her heart began to beat quick with excitement as she went on. [00:35:17] Speaker B: It's a great huge game of chess that's been played all over the world, if this is the world at all, you know. Oh, what fun it is. Oh, how I wish I was one of them. I wouldn't mind being a pawn if only I might join. Though of course I should like to be a queen best. [00:35:39] Speaker A: She glanced rather shyly at the real Queen as she said this, but her companion only smiled pleasantly and said, that's easily managed. [00:35:48] Speaker B: You can be the white Queen's pawn. [00:35:50] Speaker A: If you like, as Lily's too young. [00:35:52] Speaker B: To play, and you're in the second square to begin with. When you get to the eighth square, you'll be a queen. [00:36:02] Speaker A: Just at this moment, somehow or other, they began to run. Alice never could quite make out, in thinking it over afterwards, how it was that they began. All she remembers is that they were running hand in hand, and the Queen went so fast that it was all she could do to keep up with her. And still the Queen kept crying, faster, faster. But Alice felt she could not go faster, though she had not breath left to say so. The most curious part of the thing was that the trees and the other things round them never changed their place at all. However fast they went, they never seemed to pass anything. [00:36:48] Speaker B: I wonder if all the things move. [00:36:50] Speaker A: Along with us, thought poor, puzzled Alice, and the Queen seemed to guess her thoughts, for she cried, faster. [00:36:59] Speaker B: Don't try to talk. [00:37:02] Speaker A: Not that Alice had any idea of doing that. She felt as if she would never be able to talk again, she was getting so much out of breath. And still the Queen cried, faster, Faster. And dragged her along. [00:37:19] Speaker B: Are we nearly there? [00:37:20] Speaker A: Alice managed to pant out at last. [00:37:23] Speaker B: Nearly there. [00:37:25] Speaker A: The Queen repeated. [00:37:26] Speaker B: What? We passed it 10 minutes ago. [00:37:29] Speaker A: Faster. And they ran on for a time in silence, with the wind whistling in Alice's ears and almost blowing her hair off her head. She fancied. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Now, now. [00:37:42] Speaker A: Cried the Queen. [00:37:44] Speaker B: Faster, faster. [00:37:45] Speaker A: And they went so fast that at last they seemed to skim through the air, hardly touching the ground with their feet, till suddenly, just as Alice was getting quite exhausted, they stopped, and she found herself sitting on the ground, breathless and giddy. The Queen popped her up against a tree and said kindly, you may rest a little now. Alice looked round her in great surprise. [00:38:16] Speaker B: Why, I do believe we've been under this tree the whole time. Everything's just as it was. [00:38:23] Speaker A: Of course it is, said the Queen. [00:38:26] Speaker B: What would you have it? [00:38:28] Speaker A: Well, in our country, said Alice, still panting a little you generally get to. [00:38:34] Speaker B: Somewhere else if you ran very fast for a long time, as we've been doing. [00:38:41] Speaker A: A slow sort of country, said the Queen. Now here, you see, it takes all. [00:38:47] Speaker B: The running you can do to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that. I'd rather not try. [00:38:57] Speaker A: Please, said Alice, I'm quite content to stay here. [00:39:02] Speaker B: Only I am so hot and thirsty. [00:39:06] Speaker A: I know what you'd like, the Queen said good naturedly, taking a little box out of her pocket. [00:39:15] Speaker B: Have a biscuit. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Alice thought it would not be civil to say no, though it wasn't at all what she wanted. So she took it and ate it as well as she could. And it was very dry and she thought she had never been so nearly choked in all her life. While you're refreshing yourself, said the Queen. [00:39:40] Speaker B: I'll just take the measurements. [00:39:43] Speaker A: And she took a ribbon out of her pocket marked in inches and began measuring the ground and sticking little pegs in here and there. [00:39:53] Speaker B: At the end of 2 yards, she. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Said, putting in a peg to mark the distance. [00:39:59] Speaker B: I shall give you directions. Have I not the biscuit? [00:40:03] Speaker A: No, thank you, said Alice. [00:40:06] Speaker B: One's quite enough thirst and quenched I. [00:40:09] Speaker A: Hope, said the Queen. Alice did not know what to say to this, but luckily the Queen did not wait for an answer, but went on. [00:40:19] Speaker B: At the end of 3 yards I. [00:40:21] Speaker A: Shall repeat them for fear of your forgetting them. [00:40:24] Speaker B: At the end of four I shall. [00:40:26] Speaker A: Say good bye, and at the end. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Of five I shall go. [00:40:31] Speaker A: She had got all the pegs put in by this time and Alice looked on with great interest as she returned to the tree and then began slowly walking down the row. At the two yard peg she faced round. And a pawn goes two squares in. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Its first move, you know. So you'll go very quickly through the third square by railway, I should think, and you will find yourself in the fourth square in no time. Well, that square belongs to Tweedledum and Tweedledee. The fifth is mostly water. The sixth belongs to Humpty Dumpty. But you make no remark. I. I didn't know I had to make one just then. [00:41:17] Speaker A: Alice faltered. Out. [00:41:19] Speaker B: You should have said. It's extremely kind of you to tell me all this. However, we'll suppose it said the seventh square is all forest. However, one of the knights will show you the way. And in the 8th square we shall be queens together and it's all feasting and fun. [00:41:40] Speaker A: Alice got up and curtsied and sat down again. At the next peg The Queen turned again, and this time she said, speak. [00:41:51] Speaker B: In French when you can't think of. [00:41:53] Speaker A: The English for a thing, turn out. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Your toes as you walk and remember who you are. [00:41:59] Speaker A: She did not wait for Alice to curtsey this time, but walked on quickly to the next peg, where she turned for a moment to say goodbye and then hurried on to the last. How it happened, Alice never knew, but exactly as she came to the last peg, she was gone. Whether she vanished into the air or whether she ran quickly into the wood. [00:42:24] Speaker B: And she can run very fast, thought. [00:42:27] Speaker A: Alice, there was no way of guessing, but she was gone, and Alice began to remember that she was a pawn and that it would soon be time for her to move. End of Chapter Two Chapter three of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll Looking glass Insects of course, the first thing to do was to make a grand survey of the country. She was going to travel through its something very like learning geography, thought Alice, as she stood on tiptoe in hopes of being able to see a little further. [00:43:16] Speaker B: Principal rivers there are none. Principal mountains. I'm on the only one, but I don't think it's got any name. Principal towns. Why, what are those creatures making honey down there? They can't be bees. Nobody ever saw bees a mile off, you know. [00:43:39] Speaker A: And for some time she stood silent, watching one of them that was bustling about among the flowers, poking its proboscis into them. Just as if it was a regular bee, thought Alice. However, this was anything but a regular bee. In fact, it was an elephant, as Alice soon found out, though the idea quite took her breath away at first. [00:44:05] Speaker B: And what enormous flowers they must be. [00:44:07] Speaker A: Was her next idea. [00:44:10] Speaker B: Something like cottages with the roofs taken off and stalks put to them, and what quantities of honey they must make. I think I'll go down and. No, I won't just yet, she went. [00:44:24] Speaker A: On, checking herself just as she was beginning to run down the hill, and trying to find some excuse for turning shy so suddenly. [00:44:33] Speaker B: It'll never do to go down among them without a good long branch to brush them away. And what fun it'll be when they ask me how I like my walk. I shall say, oh, I like it well enough. [00:44:46] Speaker A: Here comes the favourite little toss of the head. [00:44:50] Speaker B: Only it was so dusty and hot and the elephants did tease. So I think I'll go down the. [00:44:57] Speaker A: Other way, she said after a pause. [00:45:00] Speaker B: And perhaps I may visit the elephants later on, because I do so want to get into the third square. [00:45:07] Speaker A: So with this excuse she ran down the hill and jumped over the first of the six little Brooks. Tickets, please, said the guard, putting his head in at the window. In a moment everybody was holding out a ticket. They were about the same size as the people and quite seemed to fill the carriage. Now then, show your ticket, child. The guard went on, looking angrily at Alice. And a great many voices all said together like the chorus of a song, thought Alice. Don't keep him waiting, child. [00:45:45] Speaker B: Why, his time is worth a thousand pounds a minute. [00:45:48] Speaker A: I'm afraid I haven't got one, Alice said in a frightened tone, they wasn't. [00:45:53] Speaker B: A ticket office where I came from. [00:45:56] Speaker A: And again the chorus of voices went on. [00:45:59] Speaker C: There wasn't room for one. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Where she came from the land there is worth a thousand pounds an inch. [00:46:05] Speaker C: Don't make excuses, said the guard. You should have bought one from the engine driver. [00:46:12] Speaker A: And once more the chorus of voices went on with the man that drives the engine. Why, the smoke alone is worth a thousand pounds. A puff, Alice thought to herself, then. [00:46:26] Speaker B: There'S no use in speaking. [00:46:28] Speaker A: The voices didn't join in this time as she hadn't spoken, but to her great surprise they all thought in chorus. I hope you understand what thinking in chorus means, for I must confess that I don't. Better say nothing at all. Language is worth a thousand pounds a word. [00:46:51] Speaker B: I shall dream about a thousand pounds to night. I know I shall, thought Alice. [00:46:58] Speaker A: All this time the guard was looking at her, first through a telescope, then through a microscope, and then through an opera glass. At last he said, you're travelling the wrong way, and shut up the window and went away. So young, the child, said the gentleman sitting opposite to her. He was dressed in white paper. Ought to know which way she's going. [00:47:27] Speaker B: Yes, even if she doesn't know her own name. [00:47:31] Speaker A: A goat that was sitting next to the gentleman in white shut his eyes and said in a loud voice, she. [00:47:38] Speaker B: Ought to know her way to the ticket office, even as she doesn't know her Alphabet. [00:47:44] Speaker A: There was a beetle sitting next to the goat. It was a very queer carriageful of passengers altogether. And as the rules seemed to be that they should all speak in turn, he went on with, she'll have to. [00:48:00] Speaker B: Go back from here as luggage. [00:48:02] Speaker A: Alice couldn't see who was sitting beyond the beetle, but a hoarse voice spoke next. Change engines, it said, and was obliged to leave off. It sounds like a horse, Alice thought to herself, and an extremely small voice close to her ear might make a joke on that. [00:48:27] Speaker B: Something about horse and horse, you know. [00:48:32] Speaker A: Then a very gentle voice in the distance said, she must be labelled Lass. [00:48:38] Speaker B: With care, you know. [00:48:40] Speaker A: And after that other voices went what. [00:48:43] Speaker B: A number of people there are in. [00:48:45] Speaker A: The carriage, thought Alice, saying she must. [00:48:48] Speaker B: Go by post, as she's got a head on her. [00:48:52] Speaker A: She must be sent as a message by the telegraph. [00:48:55] Speaker B: She must draw the train herself the. [00:48:57] Speaker A: Rest of the way, and so on. But the gentleman dressed in white paper, leaned forward and whispered in her ear, never mind what they all say, my dear, but take a return ticket every time the train stops. Indeed I shan't, alice said rather impatiently. [00:49:19] Speaker B: I don't belong to this railway journey at all. I was in a wood just now and I wish I could get back there. You might make a joke on that. [00:49:30] Speaker A: Said the little voice close to her ear. [00:49:33] Speaker B: Something about you would if you could, you know. [00:49:37] Speaker A: Don't tease so, said Alice, looking about in vain to see where the voice came from. [00:49:44] Speaker B: If you're so anxious to have a joke made, why don't you make one yourself? [00:49:49] Speaker A: The little voice sighed deeply. It was very unhappy, evidently, and Alice would have said something pitying to comfort. [00:49:58] Speaker B: It if it would only sigh like other people, she thought. [00:50:04] Speaker A: But this was such a wonderfully small sigh that she wouldn't have heard it at all if it hadn't come quite close to her ear. The consequence of this was that it tickled her ear very much, and quite took off her thoughts from the unhappiness of the poor little creature. [00:50:24] Speaker B: I know you are a friend, the. [00:50:27] Speaker A: Little voice went on, a dear friend. [00:50:29] Speaker B: And an old friend, and you won't hurt me, though I am an insect. What kind of insect? [00:50:37] Speaker A: Alice inquired a little anxiously. What she really wanted to know was whether it could sting or not, but she thought this wouldn't be quite a civil question to ask. [00:50:48] Speaker B: What then? [00:50:49] Speaker A: You don't know, the little voice began when it was drowned by a shrill scream from the engine, and everybody jumped up in alarm, Alice among the rest. The horse who had put his head out of the window quietly drew it in and said, its only a brook. [00:51:08] Speaker C: We have to jump over. [00:51:11] Speaker A: Everybody seemed satisfied with this, though Alice felt a little nervous at the idea of trains jumping at all. [00:51:19] Speaker B: However, it'll take us into the fourth square. [00:51:22] Speaker A: That's some comfort, she said to herself. In another moment she felt the carriage rise straight up into the air, and in her fright she caught at the thing nearest to her hand, which happened to be the goat's beard, but the beard seemed to melt away as she touched it, and she found herself sitting quietly under a tree while the gnat, for this was the insect she had been talking to was balancing itself on a twig just over her head and fanning her with its wings. It certainly was a very large gnat, about the size of a chicken, Alice thought. Still, she couldn't feel nervous with it after they had been talking together so long. [00:52:12] Speaker B: Then you don't like all insects, the. [00:52:15] Speaker A: Gnat went on as quietly as if nothing had happened. I like them when they can talk, alice said. [00:52:22] Speaker B: None of them ever talk where I come from. What sort of insects do you rejoice in where you come from? [00:52:30] Speaker A: The gnat inquired. [00:52:33] Speaker B: I don't rejoice in insects at all. [00:52:36] Speaker A: Alice explained, because I'm rather afraid of. [00:52:39] Speaker B: Them, at least the large kinds. But I can tell you the names of some of them. Of course they answer to their names. [00:52:48] Speaker A: The gnat remarked carelessly. [00:52:51] Speaker B: I never knew them to do it. What's the use of their having names? [00:52:55] Speaker A: The gnat said, if they won't answer to them? No use to them, said Alice. [00:53:02] Speaker B: But it's useful to the people who name them, I suppose. If not, why do things have names at all? [00:53:10] Speaker A: I can't say, the gnat replied. [00:53:14] Speaker B: Further on in the wood down there, they've got no names. However, go on with your list of insects. You're wasting time. Well, there's the horse fly. [00:53:27] Speaker A: Alice began counting off the names on her fingers. All right, said the gnat. [00:53:34] Speaker B: Halfway up that bush, you. You'll see a rocking horse fly if you look. It's made entirely of wood and gets about by swinging itself from branch to branch. What does it live on? [00:53:48] Speaker A: Alice asked with great curiosity. SAP and sawdust, said the gnat. [00:53:55] Speaker B: Go on with the list. [00:53:57] Speaker A: Alice looked up at the rocking horse fly with great interest, Alice, and made up her mind that it must have been just repainted. It looked so bright and sticky. And then she went and there's the dragonfly. [00:54:13] Speaker B: Look on the branch above your head. [00:54:15] Speaker A: Said the gnat, and you'll find a snapdragon fly. [00:54:20] Speaker B: Its body is made of plum pudding, its wings of holly leaves, and its head is a raisin burning in brandy. And what does it live on? [00:54:32] Speaker A: Frumenty and mince pie, the gnat replied. [00:54:36] Speaker B: And it makes its nest in a Christmas box. [00:54:40] Speaker A: And then there's the butterfly, alice went on after she had taken a good look at the insect with its head on fire, and had thought to herself. [00:54:50] Speaker B: I wonder if that's the reason insects are so fond of flying into candles because they want to turn into snapdragon flies crawling at your feet, said the gnat. [00:55:02] Speaker A: Alice drew her feet back in Some. [00:55:04] Speaker B: Alarm you may find a bread and butterfly. Its wings are thin slices of bread and butter, Its body is a crust, and its head is a lump of sugar. And what does it live on? Weak tea with cream in it. [00:55:22] Speaker A: A new difficulty came into Alice's head. [00:55:26] Speaker B: Supposing it couldn't find any, she suggested, then it would die, of course. [00:55:33] Speaker A: But that must happen very often, Alice remarked thoughtfully. It always happens, said the gnat. After this Alice was silent for a minute or two, pondering. The gnat amused itself meanwhile by humming round and round her head. At last it settled again and remarked. [00:55:54] Speaker B: I suppose you don't want to lose your name. [00:55:59] Speaker A: No, indeed, Alice said, a little anxiously. [00:56:03] Speaker B: And yet I don't know, the gnat. [00:56:06] Speaker A: Went on in a careless tone. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Only think how convenient it would be if you could manage to go home without it. For instance, if the governess wanted to call you to your lesson, she would call out, come here. And there she would have to leave off, because there wouldn't be any name for her to call. And of course you wouldn't have to go. [00:56:29] Speaker A: You know that would never do, I'm sure, said Alice. [00:56:34] Speaker B: The governess would never think of excusing me lessons for that. If she couldn't remember my name, she'd call me Miss, as the servants do. Well, if she said Miss and didn't. [00:56:46] Speaker A: Say anything more, the gnat remarked, of. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Course you'd miss your lessons. That's a joke. I wish you had made it. Why do you wish I had made it? [00:57:00] Speaker A: Alice asked. [00:57:01] Speaker B: It's a very bad one. [00:57:04] Speaker A: But the gnat only sighed deeply while two large tears came rolling down its cheeks. You shouldn't make jokes, Alice said, if. [00:57:14] Speaker B: It makes you so unhappy. [00:57:16] Speaker A: Then came another of those melancholy little sighs, and this time the poor gnat really seemed to have sighed itself away. For when Alice looked up, there was nothing whatever to be seen on the twig, and as she was getting quite chilly with sitting still so long, she got up and walked on. She very soon came to an open field with a wood on the other side of looked much darker than the last wood, and Alice felt a little timid about going into it. However, on second thoughts, she made up her mind to go on. [00:57:56] Speaker B: For I certainly won't go back, she. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Thought to herself, and this was the only way to to the 8th square. This must be the wood, she said thoughtfully to herself, where things have no names. [00:58:12] Speaker B: I wonder what will become of my name when I go in. I shouldn't like to lose it at all, because they'd have to Give me another. And it would be almost certain to be an ugly one. But then the fun would be trying to find a creature that had got my own name. That's just like advertisements, you know, when people lose dogs. Answers to the name of Dash had on a brass collar. Just fancy calling everything you met Alice. Till one of them answered, only they wouldn't answer at all if they were wise. [00:58:51] Speaker A: She was rambling on in this way when she reached the wood. It looked very cool and shady. [00:58:58] Speaker B: Well, at any rate, it's a great. [00:59:00] Speaker A: Comfort, she said as she stepped under. [00:59:03] Speaker B: The trees after being so hot to get into the. Into what? [00:59:10] Speaker A: She went on, rather surprised at not being able to think of the word. [00:59:15] Speaker B: I mean, to get under the. Under the. Under this, you know. [00:59:21] Speaker A: Putting her hand on the trunk of a tree. [00:59:24] Speaker B: What does it call itself, I wonder? I do believe it's got no name. Why, to be sure it hasn't. [00:59:33] Speaker A: She stood silent for a minute, thinking. Then she suddenly began again. [00:59:39] Speaker B: Then it really has happened after all. And now who am I? I will remember if I can. And determined to do it. [00:59:50] Speaker A: But being determined didn't help much, and all she could say after a great deal of puzzling, was elle. [00:59:58] Speaker B: I know it begins with L. Just. [01:00:02] Speaker A: Then a fawn came wandering by. It looked at Alice with its large gentle eyes but didn't seem at all frightened. Here then, here then, Alice said as she held out her hand and tried to stroke it, but it only started back a little and then stood looking at her again. [01:00:24] Speaker B: What do you call yourself? [01:00:26] Speaker A: The faun said at last. Such a soft, sweet voice it had. I wish I knew, thought Poor Alice, she answered rather sadly. [01:00:37] Speaker B: Nothing just now. [01:00:39] Speaker A: Think again, it said. That won't do, Alice thought, but nothing came of it. [01:00:47] Speaker B: Please would you tell me what you call yourself? [01:00:50] Speaker A: She said timidly. [01:00:51] Speaker B: I think that might help a little. I'll tell you if you'll move a. [01:00:57] Speaker A: Little further on, the fawn said. [01:01:00] Speaker B: I can't remember. Here. [01:01:03] Speaker A: So they walked on together through the wood, Alice with her arms clasped lovingly round the neck of the fawn till they came out into another open field. And here the fawn gave a sudden bound into the air and shook itself free from Alice's arms. [01:01:20] Speaker B: Im a fawn. [01:01:22] Speaker A: It cried out in a voice of delight. [01:01:25] Speaker B: And dear me, you're a human child. [01:01:29] Speaker A: A sudden look of alarm came into its beautiful brown eyes, and in another moment its it had darted away at full speed. Alice stood looking after it, almost ready to cry with vexation at having lost her dear little Fellow traveller so suddenly. [01:01:47] Speaker B: However, I know my name now, she said. That's some comfort, Alice, Alice. I won't forget it again. And now, which of these finger posts ought I to follow, I wonder? [01:02:03] Speaker A: It was not a very difficult question to answer, as there was only one road through the wood and the two finger posts both pointed along it. Ill settle it, Alice said to herself. [01:02:16] Speaker B: When the road divides and they point different ways. [01:02:19] Speaker A: But this did not seem likely to happen. She went on and on a long way, but wherever the road divided there were sure to be two finger posts pointing the same way, one marked to Tweedledum's house and the other to the House of Tweedledee. I do believe, said Alice at last. [01:02:41] Speaker B: That they live in the same house. I wonder. I never thought of that before. But I can't stay there long. I'll just call and say how do you do, and ask them the way out of the wood. If I could only get to the eighth square before it gets dark. [01:02:59] Speaker A: So she wandered on, talking to herself as she went, till on turning a sharp corner, she came upon two fat little men so suddenly that she could not help starting back, but in another moment she recovered herself, feeling sure that they must be End of Chapter Chapter 4 of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll Tweedledum and Tweedledee they were standing under a tree, each with an arm around the other's neck, and Alice knew which was which in a moment because one of them had Dumb embroidered on his collar and the other was. [01:03:51] Speaker B: I suppose they've each got Tweedle round. [01:03:54] Speaker A: At the back of the collar, she said to herself. They stood so still that she quite forgot they were alive, and she was looking around to see if the word Tweedle was written at the back of each collar, when she was startled by a voice coming from the one marked Dumb. If you think way wax works, he said, you ought to pay, you know. Waxworks aren't made to be looked at for nothing, nohow. Contrawise, added the 1 Marquis, if you think we're alive, you are to speak. I'm sure I'm very sorry, was all Alice could say, for the words of the old song kept ringing through her head like the ticking of a clock, and she could hardly help saying them out loud. [01:04:44] Speaker B: Tweedledum and Tweedledee agreed to have a battle, for Tweedledum said Tweedledee had spoiled his nice new rattle. Just then flew down a monstrous crow as black as a tar barrel, which frightened both the heroes so they quite forgot their quarrel. [01:05:04] Speaker A: I know what you're thinking about, said Tweedledum. But it isn't so, nohow. Contrawise, continued Tweedledee. If it was so, it might be, and if it was so it would be. But as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic. I was thinking, Alice said very politely. [01:05:28] Speaker B: Which is the best way out of this wood? It's getting so dark. Would you tell me, please? [01:05:35] Speaker A: But the little men only looked at each other and grinned. They looked so exactly like a couple of great schoolboys that Alice couldn't help pointing her finger at Tweedledum and saying, first boy. [01:05:49] Speaker B: No. [01:05:49] Speaker A: How? Tweedledum cried out briskly, and shut his mouth up again with a snap. [01:05:57] Speaker B: Next boy. [01:05:58] Speaker A: Said Alice, passing on to Tweedledee, though she felt quite certain he would only shout out contrawise. And so he did. You've been wrong. Cried Tweedledum. The first thing in a visit is to say how d' ye do? And shake hands. And here the two brothers gave each other a hug, and then they held out the two hands that were free to shake hands with her. Alice did not like shaking hands with either of them first, for fear of hurting the other one's feelings. So as the best way out of the difficulty, she took hold of both hands at once. The next moment they were dancing round in a ring. This seemed quite natural, she remembered afterwards, and she was not even surprised to hear music playing. It seemed to come from the tree under which they were dancing, and it was done as well as she could make it out by the branches, rubbing one across the other like fiddles and fiddlesticks. But it certainly was funny, Alice said afterwards, when she was telling her sister the history of all this, to find. [01:07:12] Speaker B: Myself singing Here We Go Round the Mulberry Bush. I don't know when I began it, but somehow I felt as if I'd been singing it for a long time. [01:07:22] Speaker A: The other two dancers were fat and very soon out of breath. Four times round is enough for one dance, Tweedledum panted out, and they left off dancing as suddenly as they had begun. The music stopped at the same moment. Then they let go of Alice's hands and stood looking at her for a minute. There was a rather awkward pause, as Alice didn't know how to begin a conversation with people she had just been dancing with. [01:07:54] Speaker B: It would never do to say how d' ye do now? [01:07:58] Speaker A: She said to herself. [01:07:59] Speaker B: We seem to have got beyond that somehow. [01:08:02] Speaker A: I hope you're not much tired, she said at last. Nohow, and thank you very much for asking, said Tweedledum. So much obliged, added Tweedledee. [01:08:15] Speaker B: You like poetry? Yes, pretty well. [01:08:19] Speaker A: Some poetry, alice said doubtfully. [01:08:23] Speaker B: Would you tell me which road leads out of the woods? [01:08:26] Speaker A: What shall I repeat to her? Said Tweedledee, looking round at Tweedledum with great solemn eyes and not noticing Alice's question. The Walrus in the Carpenter is the longest, tweedledum replied, giving his brother an affectionate hug. Tweedledee began instantly. The sun was shining here. Alice ventured to interrupt him. If it's very long, she said as politely as she could, would you please. [01:08:57] Speaker B: Tell me first which road? [01:08:58] Speaker A: Tweedledee smiled gently and began again. [01:09:04] Speaker B: The sun was shining on the sea, shining with all his might. [01:09:09] Speaker A: He did his very best to make the billows smooth and bright, and this was odd because it was the middle of the night. The moon was shining sulkily because she. [01:09:21] Speaker B: Thought the sun had got no business. [01:09:23] Speaker A: To be there after the day was done. It's very rude of him, she said, to come and spoil the fun. The sea was wet as wet could be. The sands were dry as dry. You could not see a cloud because no cloud was in the sky. No birds were flying overhead. [01:09:43] Speaker B: There were no birds to fly. [01:09:45] Speaker A: The Walrus and the Carpenter were walking close at hand. They wept like anything to see such quantities of sand. If this were only cleared away, they said, it would be grand if seven maids with seven mops swept it for half a year. Do you suppose the the Walrus said that they could get it clear? I doubt it, said the Carpenter, and shed a bitter tear. Oysters, come and walk with us, the Walrus did beseech. A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk along the briny beach. We cannot do with more than four to give a hand to each. The eldest oyster looked at him, but never a word he said. The eldest oyster winked his eye and shook his heavy head, meaning to say he did not choose to leave the oyster bed. But four young oysters hurried up, all eager for the treat. Their coats were brushed, their faces washed, their shoes were clean and neat, and this was odd because, you know, they hadn't any feet. Four other oysters followed them, and yet another four. And thick and fast they came at last, and more and more and more, all hopping through the frothy waves and scrambling to the shore. The Walrus and the Carpenter walked on a mile or so, and then they rested on a rock conveniently low, and all the little oysters stood and waited in a row. The time has come, the Walrus said, to talk of many things, of shoes in ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings, and why the sea Is boiling hot and whether pigs have wings. But wait a bit, the oysters cried, before we have our chat, for some of us are out of breath and all of us are fat. In no hurry, said the carpenter. They thanked him much for that. A loaf of bread, the walrus said, Is what we chiefly need. Pepper and vinegar besides, Are very good indeed. Now if you're ready, oysters dear, we can begin to feed, but not on us. The oysters cried, turning a little blue. [01:12:06] Speaker B: After such kindness, that would be a. [01:12:08] Speaker A: Dismal thing to do. The night is fine, the walrus said. Do you admire the view? It was so kind of you to come. And you are very nice. The carpenter said nothing, but cut us another slice. I wish you were not quite so deaf. I've had to ask you twice. It seems a shame, the walrus said, to play them such a trick after we've brought them out so far and made them trot so quick. The carpenter said nothing, but the butt is spread too thick. I weep for you, the walrus said, I deeply sympathise. With sobs and tears he sorted out those of the largest size, holding his pocket handkerchief before his streaming eyes. Oh, oysters, said the carpenter, you've had a pleasant run. Shall we be trotting home again? But answers came their none, and that was scarcely odd, because they'd eaten every one. I like the Walrus best, said Alice. [01:13:14] Speaker B: Because, you see, he was a little sorry for the poor oysters. [01:13:19] Speaker A: He ate more than the carpenter, though, said Tweedledee. You see, he held his handkerchief in front so that carpenter couldn't count how many he took. Contrawise, that was mean, Alice said indignantly. [01:13:34] Speaker B: Then I like the carpenter best if he didn't eat so many as the walrus. [01:13:39] Speaker A: But he ate as many as he could get, said Tweedledum. This was a puzzler. After a pause, Alice. [01:13:48] Speaker B: Well, they were both very unpleasant characters here. [01:13:53] Speaker A: She checked herself in some alarm at hearing something that sounded to her like the puffing of a large steam engine in the wood near them, though she feared it was more likely to be a wild beast. [01:14:07] Speaker B: Are there any lions or tigers about here? [01:14:10] Speaker A: She asked timidly. It's only the Red King snoring, said Tweedledee. Come and look at him. The brothers cried, and they each took one of Alice's hands and led her up to where the king was sleeping. Isn't he a lovely sight? Said Tweedledum. Alice couldn't say honestly that he was. He had a tall red nightcap on with a tassel, and he was lying Crumpled up in a sort of untidy heap and snoring loud, fit to snore his head off, as Tweedledum remarked. [01:14:47] Speaker B: I'm afraid he'll catch cold with lying. [01:14:49] Speaker A: On the damp grass, said Alice, who was a very thoughtful little girl. He's dreaming now, said Tweedledee. And what do you think he's dreaming about? Alice said. [01:15:03] Speaker B: Nobody can guess that. Why, about you. [01:15:07] Speaker A: Tweedledee exclaimed, clapping his hands triumphantly. [01:15:12] Speaker B: And if he left off dreaming about you, where'd you suppose you'd be? [01:15:18] Speaker A: Where I am now, of course, said Alice. Not you, Tweedledee retorted contemptuously. [01:15:25] Speaker B: You'd be nowhere. [01:15:27] Speaker A: Why, you're only a sort of thing in his dream. If that there king was to wake, added Tweedledum, you'd go out bang, just like a candle. [01:15:38] Speaker B: I shouldn't. [01:15:39] Speaker A: Alice exclaimed indignantly. [01:15:42] Speaker B: Besides, if I'm only a sort of thing in his dream, what are you, I should like to know? [01:15:49] Speaker A: Ditto. Said Tweedledum. Ditto, Ditto. Cried Tweedledee. He shouted this so loud that Alice couldn't help saying, hush. [01:16:01] Speaker B: You'll be waking him, I'm afraid, if you make so much noise. [01:16:05] Speaker A: Well, it's no use your talking about waking him, said Tweedledum, when you're only one of the things in his dream. You know very well you're not real. I am real, said Alice, and began to cry. You won't make yourself a bit real about crying, Tweedledee remarked. There's nothing to cry about if I wasn't real, Alice said, half laughing through her tears, it all seemed so ridiculous. [01:16:36] Speaker B: I shouldn't be able to cry. [01:16:39] Speaker A: I hope you don't suppose those are real tears, Tweedledum interrupted in a tone of great contempt. I know they're talking nonsense, Alice thought to herself, and it's foolish to cry about it. So she brushed away her tears and went on as cheerfully as she could. [01:16:59] Speaker B: At any rate, I'd better be getting out of the wood, for really it's coming on very dark. Do you think it's going to rain? [01:17:08] Speaker A: Tweedledum spread a large umbrella over himself and his brother and and looked up into it. No, I don't think it is, he said. At least not under here, nohow. But it may rain outside. It may if it chooses, said Tweedledee. We've no objection. Contrawise selfish things, thought Alice, and she was going to say good night and leave them, when Tweedledum sprang out from under the umbrella and and seized her by the wrist. [01:17:41] Speaker B: Do you see that? [01:17:43] Speaker A: He said in a voice choking with passion, and his eyes grew large and yellow all in a moment as he pointed with a trembling finger at a small white thing lying under the tree. Its only a rattle, Alice said after a careful examination of the little white thing. [01:18:03] Speaker B: Not a rattle snake, you know, she. [01:18:06] Speaker A: Said hastily, thinking that he was frightened. [01:18:09] Speaker B: Only an old rattle, quite old and. [01:18:12] Speaker A: Broken, I knew it was. Cried Tweedledum, beginning to stamp about wildly and tear his hair. It's spoilt of course. Here. He looked at Tweedledee, who immediately sat down on the ground and tried to hide himself under the umbrella. Alice laid her hand upon his arm and said in a soothing tone, you. [01:18:36] Speaker B: Needn'T be so angry about an old rattle. [01:18:39] Speaker A: Pootee tisnj. [01:18:40] Speaker B: Old. [01:18:41] Speaker A: Tweedledum cried in a greater fury than ever, it's new, I tell you. [01:18:46] Speaker B: I bought it yesterday, my nice new rattle. [01:18:50] Speaker A: And his voice rose to a perfect scream. All this time Tweedledee was trying his best to fold up the umbrella with himself in it, which was such an extraordinary thing to do that it quite took off Alice's attention from the angry brother. But he couldn't quite succeed, and it ended in his rolling over bundled up in the umbrella with only his head out, and there he lay, opening and shutting his mouth and his large eyes. [01:19:21] Speaker B: Looking more like a fish than anything else, Alice thought. [01:19:25] Speaker A: Of course you agreed to have a battle, Tweedledum said in a calmer tone. I suppose so, the other sulkily replied as he crawled out of the umbrella oni. She must help us to dress up, you know. So the two brothers went off hand in hand into the wood and returned in a minute with their arms full of things such as bolsters, blankets, horses, hearthrugs, tablecloths, dish covers, and coal scuttles. I hope you're a good hand at pinning and tying strings, Tweedledum remarked. Every one of these things has to go on somehow or other, Alice said afterwards. She had never seen such a fuss made about anything in all her life. The way those two bustled about and the quantity of things they put on, and the trouble they gave her in tying strings and fastening buttons. [01:20:24] Speaker B: Really, they'll be more like bundles of old clothes than anything else by the. [01:20:28] Speaker A: Time they're ready, she said to herself as she arranged a bolster round the neck of Tweedledee to keep his head from being cut off, as he said. You know, he added very gravely, it's one of the more serious things that can possibly happen to one in battle to get one's head off. Cut off. Alice laughed aloud but she managed to turn it into a cough for fear of hurting his feelings. [01:20:55] Speaker B: Do I look very pale? [01:20:57] Speaker A: Said Tweedledum, coming up to have his helmet tied on. He called it a helmet, though it certainly looked much more like a saucepan. Well, yes, a little, Alice replied gently. I'm very brave generally, he went on in a low voice. [01:21:16] Speaker B: Only today I happen to have a. [01:21:18] Speaker A: Headache and I've got a toothache, said Tweedledee, who had overheard the remark. I'm far worse off than you. Then you'd better not fight today, said Alice, thinking it a good opportunity to make peace. We must have a bit of a fight, but I don't care about going on long, said Tweedledum. [01:21:40] Speaker B: What's the time now? [01:21:41] Speaker A: Tweedledee looked at his watch and said, half past four. Let's fight till six and then have dinner, said Tweedledum. Very well, the other said rather sadly. And she can watch us. Honey, you better not come very close, he added. I generally hit everything I can see when I get really excited. [01:22:04] Speaker B: And I hit everything within reach. [01:22:06] Speaker A: Cried Tweedledum. Whether I can see it or not. Alice laughed. [01:22:12] Speaker B: You must hit the trees pretty often. [01:22:14] Speaker A: I should think, she said. Tweedledum looked round him with a satisfied smile. I don't suppose, he said, there'll be a tree less standing for ever so far round by the time we've finished. And all about a rattle, said Alice, still hoping to make them a little ashamed of fighting for such a trifle. I shouldn't have minded it so much, said Tweedledum, if it hadn't been a new one. I wish the monstrous crow would come, thought Alice. It's only one sword, you know, tweedledum said to his brother. But you can have the umbrella. It's quite as sharp. [01:22:55] Speaker B: Only we must begin quick. [01:22:56] Speaker A: It's getting as dark as it can, and darker, said Tweedledee. It was getting dark so suddenly that Alice thought there must be a thunderstorm coming on. What a thick black cloud that is, she said. [01:23:12] Speaker B: And how fast it comes. Why, I do believe it's got wings. It's the crow. [01:23:20] Speaker A: Tweedledum cried out in a shrill voice of alarm, and the two brothers took to their heels and were out of sight. In a moment. Alice ran a little way into the wood and stopped under a large tree. [01:23:36] Speaker B: It can never get me here, she thought. It's far too large to squeeze itself in among the trees, but I wish it wouldn't flap its wing so. It makes quite a hurricane in the wood. Here's somebody's shore being blown away. [01:23:53] Speaker A: End of Chapter 4 Chapter 5 of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll, Wool and Water she caught the shawl as she spoke and looked about for the owner. In another moment the White Queen came running wildly through the wood with both arms stretched out wide as if she were flying, and Alice very civilly went to meet her with the shawl. [01:24:29] Speaker B: I'm very glad I happened to be. [01:24:31] Speaker A: In the way, alice said as she helped her to put on her shawl again. The White Queen only looked at her in a helpless, frightened sort of way, and kept repeating something in a whisper to herself that sounded like bread and. [01:24:47] Speaker B: Butter, bread and butter. [01:24:49] Speaker A: And Alice felt that if there was to be any conversation at all, she must manage it herself. So she began rather timidly, am I. [01:24:58] Speaker B: Addressing the White Queen? [01:25:00] Speaker A: Well, yes, if you call that addressing, the Queen said. [01:25:05] Speaker B: It isn't my notion of the thing at all. [01:25:09] Speaker A: Alice thought it would never do to have an argument at the very beginning of their conversation, so she smiled. And if your majesty will only tell. [01:25:18] Speaker B: Me the right way to begin, I'll do it as well as I can. But I don't want it done at. [01:25:25] Speaker A: All, groaned the poor Queen. [01:25:28] Speaker B: I've been addressing myself for the last two hours. [01:25:32] Speaker A: It would have been all the better, as it seemed to Alice, if she had got someone else to dress her, she was so dreadfully untidy. Every single thing's crooked, Alice thought to herself, and she's all over pins. [01:25:48] Speaker B: May I put your shawl straight for you? [01:25:51] Speaker A: She added aloud. [01:25:54] Speaker B: I don't know what's the matter with. [01:25:56] Speaker A: It, the Queen said in a melancholy voice. [01:26:00] Speaker B: It's out of temper, I think. I've pinned it here and I've pinned it there, but there's no pleasing. Can't go straight, you know, if you pin it all on one side, Alice. [01:26:12] Speaker A: Said as she gently put it right for her. [01:26:15] Speaker B: And dear me, what a state your hair is in. [01:26:20] Speaker A: The brush has got entangled in it, the Queen said with a sigh, and. [01:26:25] Speaker B: I lost the comb yesterday. [01:26:28] Speaker A: Alice carefully released the brush and did her best to get the hair into order. [01:26:34] Speaker B: Come, you look rather better now, she. [01:26:37] Speaker A: Said after altering most of the pins. [01:26:41] Speaker B: But really you should have a lady's maid. [01:26:44] Speaker A: I'm sure I'll take you with pleasure, the Queen said. [01:26:49] Speaker B: Twopence a week and jam every day. [01:26:53] Speaker A: Alice couldn't help laughing as she said. [01:26:56] Speaker B: I don't want you to hire me, Alice, and I don't care for jam. [01:27:01] Speaker A: It's very good jam, the Queen said. [01:27:05] Speaker B: Well, I don't want any today at any Rate you couldn't have it if. [01:27:10] Speaker A: You did want it, the Queen said. [01:27:12] Speaker B: The rule is jam tomorrow and jam yesterday, but never jam today. It must come sometimes to jam today, Alice objected. [01:27:24] Speaker A: No, it can't, said the Queen. [01:27:27] Speaker B: It's jam every other day. Today isn't any other day, you know. [01:27:32] Speaker A: I don't understand you, said Alice. [01:27:35] Speaker B: It's dreadfully confusing. [01:27:38] Speaker A: That's the effect of living backwards, the Queen said kindly. [01:27:43] Speaker B: It always makes one a little giddy at first. [01:27:47] Speaker A: Living backwards, Alice repeated in great astonishment. [01:27:52] Speaker B: I never heard of such a thing. But there's one great advantage in it. That one's memory works both ways. I'm sure mine only works one way, Alice remarked. I can't remember things before they happen. It's a poor sort of memory that. [01:28:09] Speaker A: Only works backwards, the Queen remarked. [01:28:12] Speaker B: What sort of things do you remember best? [01:28:15] Speaker A: Alice ventured to say. [01:28:17] Speaker B: Oh, things that happened the week after. [01:28:20] Speaker A: Next, the Queen replied in a careless tone. For instance, now, she went on, sticking a large piece of plaster on her finger as she spoke, there's the King's messenger. [01:28:32] Speaker B: He is in prison now being punished, and the trial doesn't even begin till next Wednesday. And of course the crime comes last of all. [01:28:41] Speaker A: Suppose he never commits the crime, Said Alice. [01:28:45] Speaker B: That would be all the better, wouldn't it? [01:28:48] Speaker A: The Queen said as she bound the plaster round her finger with a bit of ribbon. Alice felt that there was no denying that. [01:28:57] Speaker B: Of course it would be all the. [01:28:58] Speaker A: Better, she said, but it wouldn't be. [01:29:02] Speaker B: All the better his being punished. [01:29:05] Speaker A: You're wrong there at any rate, said the Queen. Were you ever punished? Only for faults, said Alice. [01:29:14] Speaker B: And you were all the better for it. [01:29:16] Speaker A: I know, the Queen said triumphantly. [01:29:20] Speaker B: Yes, but then I had done the. [01:29:22] Speaker A: Things I was punished for, said Alice. [01:29:25] Speaker B: That makes all the difference. [01:29:27] Speaker A: But if you hadn't done them, the Queen said, that would have been better still. [01:29:33] Speaker B: Better and better and better. [01:29:36] Speaker A: Her voice went higher with each better till it got quite to a squeak. At last Alice was just beginning to say there's a mistake somewhere, when the Queen began screaming so loud that she had to leave the sentence unfinished. [01:29:53] Speaker B: Oh. [01:29:54] Speaker C: Oh. [01:29:55] Speaker B: Oh. [01:29:56] Speaker A: Shouted the Queen, shaking her hand about as if she wanted to shake it off. [01:30:01] Speaker B: My finger's bleeding. Oh. Oh. [01:30:04] Speaker A: Oh. Her screams were so exactly like the whistle of a steam engine that Alice had to hold both her hands over her ears. [01:30:14] Speaker B: What is the matter? [01:30:16] Speaker A: She said, as soon as there was a chance of making herself heard. [01:30:21] Speaker B: Have you pricked your finger? [01:30:23] Speaker A: I haven't pricked it yet, the Queen said. But I Soon shall. [01:30:28] Speaker B: Oh. [01:30:29] Speaker A: Oh. [01:30:29] Speaker B: Oh. When do you expect to do it? [01:30:33] Speaker A: Alice asked, feeling very much inclined to laugh. When I fasten my shawl again, the poor Queen groaned out. [01:30:43] Speaker B: The brooch will come undone directly. Oh. Oh. [01:30:48] Speaker A: As she said the words, the brooch flew open and the Queen clutched wildly at it and tried to clasp it again. [01:30:56] Speaker B: Take care. [01:30:57] Speaker A: Cried Alice. [01:30:58] Speaker B: You're holding it all crooked. [01:31:01] Speaker A: And she caught at the brooch, but it was too late. The pin had slipped and the Queen had pricked her finger. [01:31:09] Speaker C: That accounts for the bleeding, you see. [01:31:12] Speaker A: She said to Alice with a smile. [01:31:15] Speaker B: Now you understand the way things happen here, but why don't you scream now? [01:31:20] Speaker A: Alice asked, holding her hands ready to put over her ears again. Why, I've done all the screaming already, said the Queen. [01:31:31] Speaker B: What would be the good of having it all over again? [01:31:35] Speaker A: By this time it was getting light. [01:31:38] Speaker B: The crow must have flown away. [01:31:39] Speaker A: I think, said Alice. [01:31:42] Speaker B: Im so glad it's gone. I thought it was the night coming on. I wish I could manage to be. [01:31:48] Speaker A: Glad, the Queen said, only I never can remember the rule. [01:31:53] Speaker B: You must be very happy living in this wood and being glad whenever you like. Only it's so very lonely here, Alice. [01:32:01] Speaker A: Said in a melancholy voice, and at the thought of her loneliness, two large tears came rolling down her cheeks. Oh, don't go on like that, cried the poor Queen, wringing her hands in despair. [01:32:17] Speaker B: Consider what a great girl you are. Consider what a long way you've come today. Consider what o' clock it is. Consider anything, only don't cry. [01:32:29] Speaker A: Alice could not help laughing at this, even in the midst of her tears. [01:32:35] Speaker B: Can you keep from crying by considering things? [01:32:40] Speaker A: She asked. That's the way it's done, the Queen said, with great decision. [01:32:46] Speaker B: Nobody can do two things at once, you know. Let's consider your age to begin with. How old are you? I'm seven and a half exactly. [01:32:56] Speaker A: You needn't say exactually, the Queen remarked. I can believe it without that. [01:33:03] Speaker B: Now I'll give you something to believe. I'm just 1015 months and a day. I can't believe that, said Alice. Can't you? [01:33:16] Speaker A: The Queen said in a pitying tone. [01:33:19] Speaker B: Try again. Draw a long breath and shut your eyes. [01:33:23] Speaker A: Alice laughed. There's no use trying, she said. [01:33:28] Speaker B: One can't believe impossible things. I dare say you haven't had much. [01:33:33] Speaker A: Practice, said the Queen. [01:33:35] Speaker C: When I was your age, I always. [01:33:37] Speaker B: Did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. [01:33:46] Speaker A: There goes the shawl Again the brooch had come undone as she spoke, and a sudden gust of wind blew the Queen's shawl across a little brook. The Queen spread out her arms again and and went flying after it, and this time she succeeded in catching it for herself. [01:34:05] Speaker B: I've got it. [01:34:06] Speaker A: She cried in a triumphant tone. [01:34:09] Speaker B: Now you shall see me pin it on again all by myself. Then. I hope your finger is better now. [01:34:16] Speaker A: Alice said very politely as she crossed the little brook after the Queen. Oh, much better. Cried the Queen, who, her voice rising to a squeak as she went on. [01:34:28] Speaker B: Much better, better, better. [01:34:32] Speaker A: The last word ended in a long bleat, so like a sheep that Alice quite started. She looked at the Queen, who seemed to have suddenly wrapped herself up in wool. Alice rubbed her eyes and looked again. She couldn't make out what had happened at all. Was she in a shop? And was that really, was it really a sheep that was sitting on the other side of the counter? Rub. She could, she could make nothing more of it. She was in a little dark shop, leaning with her elbows on the counter, and opposite to her was an old sheep sitting in an armchair, knitting, and every now and then leaving off to look at her to through a great pair of spectacles. [01:35:21] Speaker B: What is it you want to buy? [01:35:23] Speaker A: The sheep said at last, looking up for a moment from her knitting. I don't quite know yet, Alice said very gently. [01:35:31] Speaker B: I should like to look all round me first, if I might. You may look in front of you and on both sides, if you like. [01:35:40] Speaker A: Said the sheep, but you can't look. [01:35:42] Speaker B: All round you unless you've got eyes in the back of your head. [01:35:46] Speaker A: But these, as it happened, Alice had not got, so she contented herself with turning round, looking at the shelves as she came to them. The shop seemed to be full of all manner of curious things, but the oddest part of it all was that whenever she looked hard at any shelf to make out exactly what it had on it, that particular shelf, which was always quite empty, though the others around it were crowded as full as they. [01:36:15] Speaker B: Could hold, things flow about so here. [01:36:19] Speaker A: She said at last in a plaintive tone, after she had spent a minute or so in vainly pursuing a large bright thing that looked sometimes like a doll and sometimes like a workbox, and was always in the shelf next above the one she was looking at, and. [01:36:36] Speaker B: This one is the most provoking of all. [01:36:39] Speaker A: But I'll tell you what, she added as a sudden thought struck her, I'll. [01:36:45] Speaker B: Follow it up to the very top shelf of all. It'll puzzle it to go through the ceiling, I expect. [01:36:52] Speaker A: But even this plan failed. The thing went through the ceiling as quietly as possible, as if it were quite used to it. Are you a child or a tee totum? The sheep said as she took up another pair of needles. [01:37:08] Speaker B: You'll make me giddy soon if you go on turning round like that. [01:37:13] Speaker A: She was now working with 14 pairs at once, and Alice couldn't help looking at her in great astonishment. [01:37:21] Speaker B: How can she knit with so many? [01:37:24] Speaker A: The puzzled child thought to herself. [01:37:26] Speaker B: She gets more and more like like a porcupine every minute. [01:37:31] Speaker A: Can you row? The sheep asked, handing her a pair of knitting needles as she spoke. [01:37:38] Speaker B: Yes, a little, but not on land. [01:37:41] Speaker A: And not with needles, Alice was beginning to say, when suddenly the needles turned into oars in her hands and she found they were in a little boat gliding along between banks, so there was nothing for it but to do her best. [01:37:58] Speaker B: Thither. [01:37:59] Speaker A: Cried the sheep as she took up another pair of needles. This didn't sound like a remark that needed any answer, so Alice said nothing but pulled away. There was something very queer about the water, she thought, as every now and then the oars got fast in it and would hardly come out again. [01:38:19] Speaker B: This feather. Feather. [01:38:21] Speaker A: The sheep cried again, taking more needles. [01:38:24] Speaker B: You'll be catching a crab directly. [01:38:27] Speaker A: A dear little crab, thought Alice. [01:38:30] Speaker B: I should like that. Didn't you hear me say feather? [01:38:36] Speaker A: The sheep cried angrily, taking up quite a bunch of needles. Indeed I did, said Alice. [01:38:44] Speaker B: You've said it very often and very loud. Please, where are the crabs? In the water, of course, said the. [01:38:55] Speaker A: Sheep, sticking some of the needles into her hair as her hands were full. [01:39:00] Speaker B: Feather, I say. Why do you say feather so often? [01:39:05] Speaker A: Alice asked at last, rather vexed. [01:39:09] Speaker B: Im not a bird you are, said the sheep. You're a little goose. [01:39:15] Speaker A: This offended Alice a little, so there was no more conversation for a minute or two while the boat glided gently on, sometimes among the beds of weeds, which made the oar stick fast in the water worse than ever, and sometimes under trees, but always with the same tall river banks frowning over their heads. [01:39:38] Speaker B: Oh please, there are some scented rushes. [01:39:41] Speaker A: Alice cried in a sudden transport of delight. [01:39:45] Speaker B: They really are, and such beauties. You needn't say please to me about. [01:39:52] Speaker A: Em, the sheep said without looking up from her knitting. [01:39:56] Speaker B: I didn't put em there and I'm not going to take em away. No, but I meant please may we wait and pick some? [01:40:04] Speaker A: Alice pleaded. [01:40:06] Speaker B: If you don't mind stopping the boat for a minute. How am I to stop it? [01:40:10] Speaker A: Said the sheep, if you leave off. [01:40:13] Speaker B: Rowing, it'll stop of itself. [01:40:16] Speaker A: So the boat was left to drift down the stream as it would, till it glided gently in among the waving rushes. And then the little sleeves were carefully rolled up and the little arms were plunged in elbow deep to get the rushes a good long way down before breaking them off. And for a while Alice forgot all about the sheep and the knitting as she bent over the side of the boat with just the ends of her tangled hair dipping into the water, while with bright eager eyes she caught at one bunch after another of the darling scented rushes. [01:40:52] Speaker B: I only hope the boat won't tipple. [01:40:55] Speaker A: Over, she said to herself. [01:40:58] Speaker B: Oh, what a lovely one. Only I couldn't quite reach it, and it certainly did seem a little provoking, almost as if it happened on purpose. [01:41:09] Speaker A: She thought that though she managed to pick plenty of beautiful rushes as the boat glided by, there was always a more lovely one that she couldn't reach. [01:41:20] Speaker B: The prettiest are all always further, she. [01:41:23] Speaker A: Said at last with a sigh at the obstinacy of the rushes in growing so far off as with flushed cheeks and dripping hair and hands, she scrambled back into her place and began to arrange her new found treasures. What mattered it to her just then that the rushes had begun to fade and to lose all their scent and beauty from the very moment the she picked them? Even real scented rushes, you know, last only a very little while. And these, being dream rushes, melted away almost like snow as they lay in heaps at her feet. But Alice hardly noticed this. There were so many other curious things to think about. They hadn't gone much farther before the blade of one of the oars got fast in the water and wouldn't come out again. So Alice explained it afterwards, and the consequence was that the handle of it caught under her chin, and in spite of a series of little shrieks of oh, oh, oh. From poor Alice, it swept her straight off the seat and down among the heap of rushes. However, she wasn't hurt and was soon up again. The sheep went on with her knitting all the while, just as if nothing had happened. [01:42:46] Speaker B: That was a nice crab you caught. [01:42:49] Speaker A: She remarked as Alice got back into her place, very much relieved to find herself still in the boat. [01:42:56] Speaker B: Was it? [01:42:58] Speaker A: I didn't see it, said Alice, peeping cautiously over the side of the boat into the dark water. [01:43:04] Speaker B: I wish it hadn't let go. I should so like to see a little crab to take home with me. [01:43:11] Speaker A: But the sheep only laughed scornfully and went on with her knitting. [01:43:17] Speaker B: Are there Many crabs here, said Alice. [01:43:21] Speaker A: Crabs and all sorts of things, said the sheep. [01:43:25] Speaker B: Plenty of choice. Only make up your mind now. What do you want to buy? [01:43:31] Speaker A: To buy, Alice echoed in a tone that was half astonished and half frightened, for the oars and the boat and the river had vanished all in a moment and she was back again in the little dark shop. [01:43:47] Speaker B: I should like to buy an egg. [01:43:49] Speaker A: Please, she said timidly. [01:43:52] Speaker B: How do you sell them? Five pence farthing for one. [01:43:55] Speaker A: Two pence for two, the sheep replied. [01:43:59] Speaker B: Then two are cheaper than one, alice. [01:44:02] Speaker A: Said in a surprised tone, taking out her purse. [01:44:06] Speaker B: Only you must eat them both if. [01:44:08] Speaker A: You buy two, said the sheep. Then I'll have one, please, said Alice as she put her money down on the counter, for she thought to herself. [01:44:19] Speaker B: They mightn't be at all nice, you know. [01:44:23] Speaker A: The sheep took the money and put it away in a box. Then she said, I never put things into people's hands. [01:44:30] Speaker B: That would never do. You must get it for yourself. [01:44:35] Speaker A: And so saying, she went off to the other end of the shop and set the egg upright on a shelf. [01:44:42] Speaker B: I wonder why it shouldn't do, thought. [01:44:45] Speaker A: Alice as she groped away among the tables and chairs. For the shop was very dark, and towards the end the egg seems to. [01:44:54] Speaker B: Get further away the more I walk towards it. Let me see. Is this a chair? Why, it's got branches. I declare. How very odd to find trees growing here. And actually here's a little brook. Well, this is the very queerest shop I ever saw. [01:45:15] Speaker A: So she went on wondering more and more at every step as everything turned into a tree the moment she came up to it, and she quite expected the egg to do the same. End of Chapter Five Chapter six of Alice through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll Humpty Dumpty however, the egg only got larger and larger and more and more human. When she had come within a few yards of it, she saw that it had eyes and a nose and mouth, and when she had come close to it, she saw that it was Humpty Dumpty himself. It can't be anybody else, she said to herself. [01:46:10] Speaker B: Im as certain of it as if his name were written all over his face. [01:46:16] Speaker A: It might have been written a hundred times easily on that enormous face. Humpty Dumpty was sitting with his legs crossed like a Turk on the top of a high wall, such a narrow one that Alice quite wondered how he could keep his balance and and as his eyes were steadily fixed in the opposite direction, and he didn't take the least notice of her, she thought he must be a stuffed figure after all. [01:46:46] Speaker B: And how exactly like an egg he. [01:46:48] Speaker A: Is, she said aloud, standing with her hands ready to catch him, for she was every moment expecting him to fall. Its very provoking, Humpty Dumpty said after a long silence, looking away from Alice as he spoke. [01:47:05] Speaker C: To be called an egg. Very. [01:47:08] Speaker B: I said you looked like an egg. [01:47:10] Speaker A: Sir, alice gently explained. [01:47:13] Speaker B: And some eggs are very pretty, you. [01:47:15] Speaker A: Know, she added, hoping to turn her remark into a sort of a compliment. Some people, said Humpty Dumpty, looking away from her as usual, have no more. [01:47:28] Speaker C: Sense than a baby. [01:47:31] Speaker A: Alice didn't know what to say to this. It wasn't at all like conversation, she thought, as he had never said anything to her. In fact, his last remark was evidently addressed to a tree. So she stood and softly repeated to herself, humpty Dumpty set on a wall. [01:47:51] Speaker B: Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty in his place again. That last line is much too long. [01:48:03] Speaker A: For the poetry, she added almost out loud, forgetting that Humpty Dumpty would hear her. [01:48:10] Speaker C: Don't stand there chattering to yourself like. [01:48:12] Speaker A: That, humpty Dumpty said, looking at her for the first time. [01:48:17] Speaker C: Well, tell me your name and your business. [01:48:20] Speaker B: My name is Alice, but it's a. [01:48:23] Speaker A: Stupid enough name, Humpty Dumpty interrupted impatiently. [01:48:29] Speaker C: What does it mean? [01:48:32] Speaker B: Must a name mean something? [01:48:34] Speaker A: Alice asked doubtfully. Of course it must, humpty Dumpty said with a short laugh. [01:48:42] Speaker C: My name means the shape I am, and a good handsome shape it is too. With a name like yours you might be any shape almost. [01:48:55] Speaker B: Why do you sit out here all alone? [01:48:58] Speaker A: Said Alice, not wishing to begin an argument. [01:49:02] Speaker C: Why, because there's nobody with me. [01:49:05] Speaker A: Cried Humpty Dumpty. [01:49:07] Speaker C: Did you think I didn't know the answer to that? Ask another. [01:49:13] Speaker B: Don't you think you'd be safer down on the ground? [01:49:15] Speaker A: Alice went on, not with any idea of making another riddle, but simply in her good natured anxiety for the queer creature. [01:49:24] Speaker B: That wall is so very narrow. [01:49:27] Speaker A: What tremendously easy riddles you ask, Humpty Dumpty growled out. [01:49:34] Speaker C: Of course I don't think so. So why, if ever I did fall off, which there's no chance of, but if I did here. [01:49:43] Speaker A: He pursed his lips and looked so solemn and grand that Alice could hardly help laughing. If I did fall, he went on. [01:49:52] Speaker C: The King has promised me with his very own mouth to. To. [01:49:59] Speaker B: To send all his horses and all his Men. [01:50:02] Speaker A: Alice interrupted, rather unwisely now. [01:50:07] Speaker C: I declare. That's too bad. [01:50:10] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty cried, breaking into a sudden passion. [01:50:14] Speaker C: You've been listening at doors and behind trees and down chimneys, or you couldn't have known it. [01:50:23] Speaker A: I haven't indeed, alice said very gently. [01:50:27] Speaker B: It's in a book. [01:50:29] Speaker C: Ah, well, they may write such things. [01:50:32] Speaker A: In a book, humpty Dumpty said in a calmer tone. [01:50:37] Speaker C: That's what you call a history of England, that is. Now, take a good look at me. I'm one that has spoken to a king, I am. Mayhap you'll never see such another. And to show you I'm not proud crowd, you may shake hands with me. [01:50:59] Speaker A: And he grinned almost from ear to ear as he leant forwards and as nearly as possible fell off the wall in doing so, and offered Alice his hand. She watched him a little anxiously as she took it. [01:51:13] Speaker B: If he smiled much more, the ends. [01:51:16] Speaker A: Of his mouth might meet behind, she thought. [01:51:19] Speaker B: And then I don't know what would happen to his head. I'm afraid it would come off. [01:51:25] Speaker C: Yes. All his horses and all his men. [01:51:29] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty went on. [01:51:31] Speaker C: They'd pick me up again in a minute, they would. However, this conversation is going on a little too fast. Let's go back to the last remark but one. [01:51:43] Speaker B: I'm afraid I can't quite remember it. [01:51:46] Speaker A: Alice said very politely. [01:51:49] Speaker C: In that case, we start fresh, said. [01:51:52] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty, and it's my turn to choose the subject. [01:51:57] Speaker B: He talks about it just as if. [01:51:59] Speaker A: It was a game, thought Alice. [01:52:02] Speaker C: So here's a question for you. How old did you say you were? [01:52:08] Speaker A: Alice made a short calculation and said. [01:52:12] Speaker B: 7 years and 6 months. Wrong. [01:52:16] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty exclaimed triumphantly. [01:52:19] Speaker C: You never said a word like it. [01:52:22] Speaker B: I thought you meant how old are you? [01:52:25] Speaker A: Alice explained. [01:52:27] Speaker C: If I'd meant that, I'd have said. [01:52:29] Speaker A: It, said Humpty Dumpty. Alice didn't want to begin another argument, so she said nothing. Seven years and six months, humpty Dumpty repeated thoughtfully. [01:52:45] Speaker C: An uncomfortable sort of age. Now, if you'd asked my advice, I'd have said leave off at 7, but it's too late now. [01:52:55] Speaker A: I never ask advice about growing, alice said indignantly. [01:53:00] Speaker C: Too proud? [01:53:02] Speaker A: The other inquired. Alice felt even more indignant at this suggestion. I mean, she said, that one can't help growing older. One can't, perhaps, said Humpty Dumpty, but. [01:53:17] Speaker C: Two ken, with proper assistance, you might have left off at seven. [01:53:22] Speaker A: What a beautiful belt you've got on, Alice suddenly remarked. They had had quite enough of the subject of age, she thought, and if they really were to take turns in choosing subjects, it was her turn now. At least she corrected herself on second thoughts. [01:53:41] Speaker B: A beautiful cravat, I should have said. No. A belt, I mean. [01:53:45] Speaker A: I beg your pardon, she added in dismay, for Humpty Dumpty looked thoroughly offended, and she began to wish she hadn't chosen that subject. If I only knew, she thought to herself, which was neck and which was waste. Evidently Humpty Dumpty was very angry, though he said nothing for a minute or two. When he did speak again it was in a deep growl. [01:54:12] Speaker C: It is a most provoking thing, he. [01:54:17] Speaker A: Said at last, when a person doesn't. [01:54:20] Speaker C: Know a cravat from a belt. [01:54:23] Speaker B: I know it's very ignorant of me. [01:54:25] Speaker A: Alice said in so humble a tone that Humpty Dumpty relented. [01:54:30] Speaker C: It's a cravat, child, and a beautiful one, as you say. It's a present from the White King and Queen. There now. [01:54:40] Speaker B: Is it really? [01:54:42] Speaker A: Said Alice, quite pleased to find that she had chosen a good subject after all. They gave it me, humpty Dumpty continued thoughtfully, and as he crossed one knee over the other and clasped his hands round it, they gave it me for. [01:54:58] Speaker C: An UN birthday present. [01:55:02] Speaker B: I beg your pardon? [01:55:04] Speaker A: Alice said with a puzzled air. I'm not offended, said Humpty Dumpty. [01:55:10] Speaker B: I mean, what is an UN birthday present? [01:55:15] Speaker C: A present given when it isn't your birthday, of course. [01:55:19] Speaker A: Alice considered a little. I like birthday presents best, she said at last. [01:55:26] Speaker C: You don't know what you're talking about. [01:55:29] Speaker A: Cried Humpty Dumpty. [01:55:31] Speaker C: How many days are there in a year? [01:55:34] Speaker A: 365, said Alice. [01:55:37] Speaker C: And how many birthdays have you? [01:55:41] Speaker A: One. [01:55:42] Speaker C: And if you take one from 365, what remains? [01:55:48] Speaker B: 364, of course. [01:55:51] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty looked doubtful. I'd rather see that done on paper, he said. Alice couldn't help smiling as she took out her memorandum book and worked the sum for him. [01:56:04] Speaker B: 365 over 1. 364. [01:56:10] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty took the book and looked at it carefully. That seems to be done right, he began. You're holding it upside down, alice interrupted. To be sure I was, humpty Dumpty said gaily as she turned it round for him. [01:56:28] Speaker C: I thought it looked a little queer. As I was saying, that seems to be done right, though I haven't time to look it over thoroughly just now. And that shows that there are 364 days. One when you might get UN birthday presents. [01:56:45] Speaker A: Certainly, said Alice. [01:56:48] Speaker C: And only one for birthday presents, you know. There's glory for you. [01:56:55] Speaker A: I don't know what you mean by glory, Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. [01:57:02] Speaker C: Of course you don't till I tell you. I meant there's a nice knock down argument for you. [01:57:10] Speaker B: But glory doesn't mean a nice knock. [01:57:13] Speaker A: Down argument, Alice objected. When I use a word, humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, it. [01:57:22] Speaker C: Means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less. [01:57:28] Speaker A: The question is, said Alice, whether you. [01:57:31] Speaker B: Can make words mean so many different things. [01:57:34] Speaker A: The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, which. [01:57:38] Speaker C: Is to be master, that's all. [01:57:41] Speaker A: Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute, Humpty Dumpty began again. [01:57:48] Speaker C: They've a temper, some of them, particularly verbs. They're the proudest adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs. However, I can manage the whole lot of them. Impenetrability, that's what I say. [01:58:04] Speaker A: Would you tell me please, said Alice, what that means? [01:58:09] Speaker C: Now you talk like a reasonable child. [01:58:12] Speaker A: Said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. [01:58:16] Speaker C: I meant by impenetrability that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life. [01:58:31] Speaker B: That's a great deal to make one. [01:58:33] Speaker A: Word mean, Alice said in a thoughtful tone. [01:58:37] Speaker C: When I make a word to a. [01:58:38] Speaker A: Lot of work like that, said Humpty. [01:58:41] Speaker C: Dumpty, I always pay it extra. [01:58:45] Speaker A: Oh, said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark. [01:58:51] Speaker C: Ah, you should see em come round me or of a Saturday night, humpty. [01:58:56] Speaker A: Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side. [01:59:01] Speaker C: For to get their wages, you know. [01:59:04] Speaker A: Alice didn't venture to ask what he paid them with. And so you see, I can't tell you. You seem very clever at explaining words, sir, said Alice. [01:59:15] Speaker B: Would you kindly tell me the meaning of the poem called Jabberwocky? [01:59:20] Speaker A: Lets hear it, said Humpty Dumpty. [01:59:23] Speaker C: I can explain all the poems that were ever invented, and a good many that haven't been invented just yet. [01:59:30] Speaker A: This sounded very hopeful, so Alice repeated the first. [01:59:36] Speaker B: Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the waip. All mimsy were the borrow groves, and the mown wraths and outgrabe. [01:59:47] Speaker A: That's enough to begin with, Humpty Dumpty interrupted. [01:59:50] Speaker C: There are plenty of hard words there. Brillig means four o' clock in the afternoon, the time when you begin broiling things for dinner. [02:00:01] Speaker A: That'll do very well, said Alice. [02:00:04] Speaker B: And slithy? [02:00:05] Speaker C: Well, slithy means lithe and slimy. Lithe is the same as slight, active, you see. It's like a portmanteau. There are two meanings packed up into one word. [02:00:19] Speaker A: I see it now, Alice remarked thoughtfully. [02:00:23] Speaker B: And what are toves? [02:00:26] Speaker C: Well, toves are something like badgers, they're something like lizards, and they're something like corkscrews. [02:00:34] Speaker B: They must be very curious looking creatures. [02:00:38] Speaker A: They are that, said Humpty Dumpty. [02:00:41] Speaker C: Also they make their nests under sundials. [02:00:45] Speaker A: Also they live on cheese and what's the gyre? [02:00:50] Speaker C: And to gimble to gyre is to go round and round like a gyroscope. To gimbal is to make holes like a gimlet. [02:01:01] Speaker B: And the wabe is the grass plot round a sundial. [02:01:04] Speaker A: I suppose, said Alice, surprised at her own ingenuity. [02:01:09] Speaker C: Of course it is. It's called wabe, you know, because it goes a long way before it and a long way behind it and a. [02:01:17] Speaker B: Long way beyond it on its side, Alice added. [02:01:21] Speaker C: Exactly so. Well then, Mimsy is flimsy and miserable. That's another portmanteau for you. And a Borough grove is a thin, shabby looking bird with its feathers sticking out all round, something like a live mop. [02:01:39] Speaker A: And then moam raths, said Alice. [02:01:43] Speaker B: I'm afraid I'm giving you a great deal of trouble. [02:01:46] Speaker C: Well, a rath is a sort of green pig, but moam I'm not certain about. I think it's short for. For from home, meaning that they'd lost their way, you know. [02:02:00] Speaker B: And what does outgrabe mean? [02:02:02] Speaker C: Well, out grabing is something between bellowing and whistling with a kind of sneeze in the middle. However, you'll hear it done maybe down in the wood yonder, and when you've once heard it you'll be quite content. Who's been repeating all that hard stuff to? [02:02:23] Speaker A: I read it in a book, said Alice, but I had some poetry repeated. [02:02:27] Speaker B: To me much easier than that by Tweedledee, I think it was. [02:02:32] Speaker C: As to poetry, you know, said Humpty. [02:02:35] Speaker A: Dumpty, stretching out one of his great. [02:02:38] Speaker C: Hands, I can repeat poetry as well as other folk, if it comes to that. [02:02:45] Speaker B: Oh, it needn't come to that, Alice. [02:02:47] Speaker A: Hastily said, hoping to keep him from beginning the piece. [02:02:51] Speaker C: I am going to repeat, he went. [02:02:54] Speaker A: On without noticing her remark, was written. [02:02:58] Speaker C: Entirely for your amusement. [02:03:01] Speaker A: Alice felt that in that case she really ought to listen to it. So she sat down and said, thank you rather sadly. [02:03:11] Speaker C: In winter when the fields are white. Or I sing this song for your delight. [02:03:18] Speaker A: Only I don't sing it, he added as an explanation. I see you don't, said Alice. [02:03:25] Speaker C: If you can see whether I'm singing or not. [02:03:28] Speaker A: You've sharper eyes than most, Humpty Dumpty remarked severely. Alice was silent. [02:03:36] Speaker C: In spring, when woods are getting green hump, I'll try and tell you what I mean. [02:03:42] Speaker A: Thank you very much, said Alice. [02:03:45] Speaker C: In summer when the days are long, perhaps you'll understand the song. In autumn when the leaves are brown. Take pen and ink and write it down. [02:03:57] Speaker B: I will, if I can remember it. [02:03:59] Speaker A: So long, said Alice. [02:04:01] Speaker C: You needn't go on making remarks like that. [02:04:04] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty said, they're not sensible and. [02:04:07] Speaker C: They put me out. I sent a message to the fish. I told them, this is what I wish, the little fishes of the sea. They sent an answer back to me. The little fish's answer was, we cannot do it, sir, because I'm afraid I. [02:04:27] Speaker A: Don'T quite understand, said Alice. [02:04:30] Speaker C: It gets easier further on. [02:04:32] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty replied. [02:04:34] Speaker C: I said to them again to say it will be better to obey. The fishes answered with a grin. Why, what a temper you are in. I told them once, I told them twice, they would not listen to advice. I took a kettle large and new, fit for the deed I had to do. My heart went hop, my heart went thump. I. I filled the kettle at the pump. Then someone came to me and said, the little fishes are in bed. I said to him, I said it plain, then you must wake them up again. I said it very loud and clear. I went and shouted in his ear. [02:05:16] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty raised his voice almost to a scream as he repeated this verse, and Alice thought with a shudder, I. [02:05:24] Speaker B: Wouldn'T have been the messenger for anything. [02:05:27] Speaker C: But he was very stiff and proud. He said, you needn't shout so loud. And he was very proud and stiff. He said, I'd go and wake them if I took a corkscrew from the shelf. I went to wake them up myself, and when I found the door was locked, I pulled and pushed and kicked and knocked, and when I found the door was shut, I tried to turn. [02:05:54] Speaker A: The handle, but there was a long pause. [02:05:59] Speaker B: Is that all? [02:06:00] Speaker A: Alice timidly asked. That's all, said Humpty Dumpty. [02:06:05] Speaker C: Goodbye. [02:06:08] Speaker A: This was rather sudden, Alice thought, but after such a very strong hint that she ought to be going. She felt that it would hardly be civil to stay, so she got up and held out her hand. Goodbye till we meet again, she said as cheerfully as she could. [02:06:27] Speaker C: I shouldn't know you again if we did meet. [02:06:30] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty replied in a discontented tone, giving her one of his fingers to shake. [02:06:37] Speaker C: You're so exactly like other people. [02:06:40] Speaker B: The face is what one goes by. [02:06:42] Speaker A: Generally, alice remarked in a thoughtful tone. That's just what I complain of, said Humpty Dumpty. [02:06:51] Speaker C: Your face is the same as everybody has, the two eyes so marking their. [02:06:57] Speaker A: Places in the air with his thumb. [02:07:00] Speaker C: Nose in the middle, mouth under. It's always the same. Now if you had the two eyes on the same side of the nose, for instance, or the mouth at the top, that would be some help. [02:07:13] Speaker A: It wouldn't look nice, alice objected, but Humpty Dumpty only shut his eyes and. [02:07:19] Speaker C: Said, wait till you've tried. [02:07:23] Speaker A: Alice waited a minute to see if he would speak again, but as he never opened his eyes or took any further notice of her, she said goodbye once more, and getting no answer to this, she quietly walked away. But she couldn't help saying to herself as she went, of all unsatisfactory. She repeated this aloud, as it was a great comfort to have such a long word to say, of all the. [02:07:53] Speaker B: Unsatisfactory people I've ever met. [02:07:57] Speaker A: She never finished the sentence, for at this moment a heavy crash shook the forest from end to end. End of Chapter 6 Chapter 7 of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll the Lion and the Unicorn the next moment soldiers came running through the wood, at first in twos and threes, then 10 or 20 together, and at last in such crowds that they seemed to fill the whole forest. Alice got behind a tree for fear of being run over, and watched them go by. She thought that in all her life she had never seen soldiers so uncertain on their feet. They were always tripping over something or other, and whenever one went down, several more always fell over him, so that the ground was soon covered with little heaps of men. Then came the horses, having four feet, these managed rather better than the foot soldiers, but even they stumbled now and then, and it seemed to be a regular rule that whenever a horse stumbled, the rider fell off in instantly. The confusion got worse every minute, and Alice was very glad to get out of the wood into an open place, where she found the White King seated on the ground, busily writing in his memorandum book. [02:09:35] Speaker B: I've sent them all. [02:09:37] Speaker A: The King cried in a tone of delight on seeing Alice. Did you happen to meet any soldiers, my dear, as you came through the wood? Yes, I did, said Alice. [02:09:48] Speaker B: Several thousand, I should think. [02:09:51] Speaker A: 4000, 207. That's the exact number, the king said, referring to his book. I couldn't send all the horses, you know, because two of them are wanted in the game. And I haven't sent the two messengers either. They're both gone to the town. Just look along the road and tell me if you can see either of them. I see nobody on the road, said Alice. [02:10:19] Speaker B: I only wish I had such eyes. [02:10:21] Speaker A: The king remarked in a fretful tone. To be able to see nobody, and at that distance too. [02:10:29] Speaker B: Why, it's as much as I can. [02:10:31] Speaker A: Do to see real people by this light. All this was lost on Alice, who, still looking intently along the road, shading her eyes with one hand. I see somebody now, she exclaimed at last. [02:10:46] Speaker B: But he's coming very slowly. And what curious attitudes he goes into. [02:10:52] Speaker A: For the messenger kept skipping up and down and wriggling like an eel as he came along, with his great hands spread out like fans on each side. Not at all, said the king. He's an Anglo Saxon messenger, and those are Anglo Saxon attitudes. He only does them when he's happy. His name is Hegel. He pronounced it to rhyme with mayor. [02:11:21] Speaker B: I love my love with an H. [02:11:25] Speaker A: Alice couldn't help beginning. [02:11:27] Speaker B: Because he is happy. I hate him with a H because he's hideous. I fed him with. With. With ham sandwiches and hey. His name is Hagar and he lives. [02:11:43] Speaker A: He lives on the hill. The king remarked simply, without the least idea that he was joining in the game while Alice was still hesitating for the name of a town. Because beginning with H, the other messenger's called Hatta. I must have two, you know, to come and go. One to come and one to go. I beg your pardon, said Alice. It isn't respectable to beg, said the king. I only meant that I didn't understand, said Alice. [02:12:18] Speaker B: Why want to come and want to go? [02:12:21] Speaker A: Didn't I tell you? The king repeated impatiently. I must have two to fetch and Kerry. One to fetch and one to Kerry. At this moment the messenger arrived. He was far too much out of breath to say a word and could only wave his hands about and make the most fearful faces of the poor king. This young lady loves you with an H, the king said, introducing Alice in the hope of turning the messenger's attention from himself. But it was no use. The Anglo Saxon attitudes only got more extraordinary every moment, while the Great eyes rolled wildly from side to side. You alarm me, said the king. [02:13:14] Speaker C: I feel faint. Give me a ham sandwich. [02:13:19] Speaker A: On which the messenger, to Annas's great amusement, opened a bag that hung round his neck and handed a sandwich to the King, who devoured it greedily. Another sandwich, said the King. [02:13:34] Speaker B: There's nothing but hay left now, the. [02:13:36] Speaker A: Messenger said, peeping into the bag. Hey, then, the king murmured in a faint whisper. Alice was glad to see that it revived him a good deal. [02:13:49] Speaker C: There's nothing like eating hay when you're. [02:13:51] Speaker A: Faint, he remarked to her as he munched away. [02:13:56] Speaker B: I should think throwing cold water over. [02:13:58] Speaker A: You would be better, Alice suggested, or some sal volatile. I didn't say there was nothing better, the King replied. I said there was nothing like it. Which Alice did not venture to deny. [02:14:18] Speaker C: Who did you pass on the road? [02:14:20] Speaker A: The king went on, holding out his hand to the messenger. For some more hay. Nobody, said the messenger. Quite right, said the King. [02:14:31] Speaker C: This young lady saw him too. So of course nobody walks slower than you. [02:14:38] Speaker A: I do my best, the messenger said in a sulky tone. I'm sure nobody walks much faster than I do. He can't do that, said the King. [02:14:50] Speaker C: Or else he'd have been here first. However, now you've got your breath, you may tell us what's happened in the town. [02:15:01] Speaker A: I'll whisper it, said the messenger, putting his hands to his mouth in the shape of a trumpet and stooping so as to get close to the King's ear. Alice was sorry for this, as she wanted to hear the news too. However, instead of whispering, he simply shouted at the top of his voice, they're at it again. [02:15:24] Speaker C: Do you call that a whisper? [02:15:28] Speaker A: Cried the poor king, jumping up and shaking himself. [02:15:32] Speaker C: If you do such a thing again, I'll have you butted. It went through and through my head like an earthquake. [02:15:42] Speaker B: It would have to be a very. [02:15:44] Speaker A: Tiny earthquake, thought Alice, who are at it again. She ventured to ask why. [02:15:52] Speaker C: The lion and the Unicorn, of course. [02:15:55] Speaker A: Said the King, fighting for the crown. Yes, to be sure, said the King. [02:16:02] Speaker C: And the best joke is that it's my crown all the while. Let's run and see them. [02:16:09] Speaker A: And they trotted off, Alice repeating to herself as she ran the words of the old song, the lion and the. [02:16:17] Speaker B: Unicorn were fighting for the crown. The lion beat the Unicorn all round the town. Some gave them white bread, some gave them brown, some gave them plum cake and drummed them out of town. Does the one that wins get the crown? [02:16:34] Speaker A: She asked as well as she could, for the run was putting her quite out of breath. [02:16:40] Speaker C: Dear me, no. [02:16:42] Speaker A: Said the king. What an idea. [02:16:46] Speaker B: Would you be good enough? [02:16:48] Speaker A: Alice panted out after running a little further to stop a minute. [02:16:52] Speaker B: Just get one's breath again. [02:16:55] Speaker A: Im good enough, the king said, only I'm not strong enough, you see. A minute goes by so fearfully quick, you might as well try to stop a bendersnatch. Alice had no more breath for talking, so they trotted on in silence till they came in sight of a great crowd in the middle of which the lion and Unicorn were fighting. They were in such a cloud of dust that at first Alice could not make out which was which, but she soon managed to distinguish the Unicorn by his horn. They placed themselves close to where Hatta, the other messenger, was standing, watching the fight with a cup of tea in one hand and a piece of bread and butter in the other. He's only just out of prison and he hadn't finished his tea when he was sent in. Hagar whispered to Alice, and they only give the moisty shells in there. So you see he's very hungry and thirsty. How are you, dear child? He went on, putting his arm affectionately round Hatta's neck. Hatta looked round and nodded, and went on with his bread and butter. Were you happy in prison, dear child? Said Hagar. Hatta looked round once more, and this time a tear or two trickled down his cheek, but not a word would he say. Speak, can't you? Hagar cried impatiently. But Hatter only munched away and drank some more tea. [02:18:30] Speaker C: Speak, won't you? [02:18:32] Speaker A: Cried the king. [02:18:33] Speaker C: How are they getting on with the fight? [02:18:35] Speaker A: Hatta made a desperate effort and swallowed a large piece of bread and butter. They're getting on very well, he said in a choking voice. [02:18:44] Speaker B: Each of them has been down about 87 times. Then I suppose they'll soon bring the. [02:18:50] Speaker A: White bread and the brown, Alice ventured to remark. It's waiting for em now, said Hatta. [02:18:58] Speaker B: This is a bit of it I'm eating. [02:19:00] Speaker A: There was a pause in the fight just then, and the lion and the Unicorn sat down panting, while the King called out 10 minutes allowed for refreshments. Hagar and Hatta set to work at once, carrying rough trays of white and brown bread. Alice took a piece to taste, but it was very dry. [02:19:21] Speaker C: I don't think they'll fight any more. [02:19:23] Speaker A: Today, the king said to Hatta. [02:19:26] Speaker C: Go and order the drums to begin. [02:19:28] Speaker A: And Hatta went bounding away like a grasshopper. For a minute or two Alice stood silent, watching him. Suddenly she brightened up. Look, look she cried, pointing eagerly. [02:19:43] Speaker B: There's the White Queen running across the country. She came flying out of the woods over yonder. How fast those queens can run. [02:19:52] Speaker C: There's some enemy after her, no doubt. [02:19:55] Speaker A: The king said without even looking round. [02:19:58] Speaker C: That woods full of them. [02:20:00] Speaker B: But aren't you going to run and help her? [02:20:02] Speaker A: Alice asked, very much surprised at his taking it so quietly. No use, no use, said the king. [02:20:10] Speaker C: She runs so fearfully quick. You might as well try to catch a bendersnatch. [02:20:15] Speaker A: But I'll make a memorandum about her if you like. She's a dear good creature, he repeated softly to himself as he opened his memorandum book. [02:20:26] Speaker C: Do you spell creature with a double E? [02:20:30] Speaker A: At this moment the Unicorn sauntered by them with his hands in his pockets. I had the best of it this time, he said to the King, just glancing at him as he passed. A little, a little, the King replied rather nervously. [02:20:49] Speaker C: You shouldn't have run him through with your horn, you know. [02:20:53] Speaker A: It didn't hurt him, the Unicorn said carelessly. And he was going on when his eye happened to fall upon Alice. He turned round rather instantly and stood for some time, looking at her with an air of the deepest disgust. What is this? He said at last. This is a child, Hagar replied eagerly, coming in front of Alice to introduce her and spreading out both his hands towards her in an Anglo Saxon attitude. We only found it today. [02:21:27] Speaker B: It's as large as life and twice as natural. [02:21:30] Speaker A: I always thought they were fabulous monsters, said the Unicorn. Is it alive? It can talk, said Hagar solemnly. The Unicorn looked dreamily at Alice and said, talk, child. Alice could not help her lips curling up into a smile as she began. [02:21:52] Speaker B: Do you know, I always thought unicorns were fabulous monsters too. I never saw one alive before. [02:21:59] Speaker A: Well, now that we have seen each other, said the Unicorn. If you believe in me, I'll believe in you. Is that a bargain? Yes, if you like, said Alice. Come fetch out the plum cake, old man, The Unicorn went on, turning from her to the King. None of your brown bread for me. Certainly, certainly, the King muttered and beckoned to Hagar. Open the bag, he whispered. [02:22:32] Speaker C: Quick. Not that one that's full of hay. [02:22:36] Speaker A: Hagar took a large cake out of the bag and gave it to Alice to hold while he got out a dish and carving knife. How they all came out of it, Alice couldn't guess. It was just like a conjuring trick. She thought the lion had joined them while this was going on. He looked very tired and sleepy and. And his eyes were half shut. What's this, he said, blinking lazily at Alice and speaking in a deep hollow tone that sounded like the tolling of a great bell. Ah, what is it now? The Unicorn cried eagerly. You'll never guess. [02:23:15] Speaker C: I couldn't. [02:23:17] Speaker A: The lion looked at Alice wearily. Are you animal, vegetable or mineral? He said, yawning at every other word. [02:23:26] Speaker C: It's a fabulous monster. [02:23:29] Speaker A: The Unicorn cried out before Alice could reply. Then hand round the plum cake monster, the lion said, lying down and putting his chin on his paws. And sit down, both of you, to the King and the Unicorn. Fair play with the cake, you know. The King was evidently very uncomfortable at having to sit down between the two great creatures, but there was no other place for him. What a fight we might have for the crown now, the Unicorn said, looking slyly up at the crown, which the poor king was nearly shaking off his head. He trembled so much. I should win easy, said the Lion. I'm not so sure of that, said the Unicorn. Why, I beat you around the town, you chicken. The lion replied angrily, half getting up as he spoke. Here the King interrupted to prevent the quarrel going on. He was very nervous and his voice quite quivered. All around the town, he said. [02:24:40] Speaker C: That's a good long way. Did you go by the old bridge or the market place? You've got the very best view by. [02:24:47] Speaker A: The old bridge, I'm sure I don't know. The lion growled out as he lay down again. There was too much dust to see anything. What a time the monster is cutting up that cake. Alice had seated herself on the bank of of a little brook with the great dish on her knees, and was sawing away diligently with the knife. It's very provoking, she said in a reply to the Lion. She was getting quite used to being called the Monster. [02:25:20] Speaker B: I've cut several slices already, but they always join on again. [02:25:25] Speaker A: You don't know how to manage looking glass cakes, the Unicorn remarked. Hand it round first and cut it afterwards. This sounded nonsense, but Alice very obediently got up and carried the dish round, and the cake divided itself into three pieces as she did so. Now cut it up. Said the lion as she returned to her place with the empty dish. I say this isn't fair. Cried the Unicorn as Alice sat with the knife in her hand, very much puzzled how to begin. The monster has given the lion twice as much as me. She's kept none for herself anyhow, said the Lion. Do you like plum cake monster? But before Alice could answer him, the drums began. Where the noise came from she couldn't make out the air seemed full of it and rang through and through her head till she felt quite deafened. She started to her feet and sprang across the little brook in her terror, and just had time to see the lion and the Unicorn rise to their feet with angry looks at being interrupted in their feast, before she dropped to her knees and put her hands over her ears, vainly trying to shut out the dreadful uproar. [02:26:57] Speaker B: If that doesn't drum them out of. [02:26:59] Speaker A: Town, she thought to herself, nothing ever will. End of Chapter seven Chapter eight of Alice through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll it's my own invention. After a while the noise seemed gradually to die away till all was dead silence, and Alice lifted up her head in some alarm. There was no one to be seen, and her first thought was that she must have been dreaming about the lion and the Unicorn and those queer Anglo Saxon messengers. However, there was the great dish still lying at her feet, on which she had tried to cut the plum cake. So I wasn't dreaming after all, she said to herself. [02:27:57] Speaker B: Unless. Unless we're all part of the same dream. Only I do hope it's my dream and not the Red Kings. I don't like belonging to another person's. [02:28:08] Speaker A: Dream, she went on in a rather complaining tone. [02:28:13] Speaker B: I've a great mind to go and wake him and see what happens. [02:28:18] Speaker A: At this moment her thoughts were interrupted by a loud shouting of Ahoy. Ahoy. [02:28:24] Speaker C: Check. [02:28:25] Speaker A: And a knight dressed in crimson armour came galloping down upon her, brandishing a great club. Just as he reached her, the horse stopped suddenly. You're my prisoner. The knight cried as he tumbled off his horse. Startled as she was, Alice was more frightened for him than for herself at the moment, and watched him with some anxiety as he mounted again. As soon as he was comfortably in the saddle, he began once more, you're my. But here. Another voice broke in. [02:29:03] Speaker B: Ahoy. Ahoy. [02:29:04] Speaker A: Check. And Alice looked round in some surprise for the new enemy. This time it was a white knight. He drew up at Alice's side and tumbled off his horse, just as the Red Knight had done. Then he got on again, and the two knights sat looking at each other for some time without speaking. Alice looked from one to the other in some bewilderment. She is my prisoner, you know, the Red knight said at last. Yes, but then I came and rescued her, the white knight replied. Well, we must fight for her then, said the red knight, as he took up his helmet, which hung from the saddle and was something the shape of a horse's head, and put it on. You will observe the rules of battle, of course, the White Knight remarked, putting on his helmet too. I always do, said the Red Knight, and they began banging away at each other with such fury that Alice got behind a tree to be out of the way of the blows. [02:30:14] Speaker B: I wonder now what the rules of. [02:30:16] Speaker A: Battle are, she said to herself as she watched the fight timidly peeping out from her hiding place. [02:30:25] Speaker B: One rule seems to be that if one knight hits the other he knocks him off his horse, and if he misses he tumbles off himself. And another rule seems to be that they hold their clubs with their arms as if they were Punch and Judy. What a noise they make when they tumble, just like a whole set of fire irons falling into the fender. And how quiet the horses are. They let them get on and off them just as if they were tables. [02:30:58] Speaker A: Another rule of battle that Alice had not noticed seemed to be that they always fell on their heads and the battle ended with their both falling off in this way, side by side. When they got up again they shook hands and then the Red Knight mounted and galloped off. It was a glorious victory, wasn't it? Said the White Knight as he came up panting. I don't know, Alice said doubtfully. [02:31:29] Speaker B: I don't want to be anybody's prisoner. I want to be a queen. [02:31:34] Speaker A: So you will when you've crossed the next brook, said the White Knight. I'll see you safe to the end of the wood, and then I must go back, you know. That's the end of my move. Thank you very much, said Alice. [02:31:50] Speaker B: May I help you off with your helmet? [02:31:52] Speaker A: It was evidently more than he could manage by himself. However, she managed to shake him out of it at last. Now one can breathe more easily, said the knight, putting back his shaggy hair with both hands and turning his gentle face and large mild eyes to Alice. She thought she had never seen such a strange looking soldier in all her life. He was dressed in tin armour, which seemed to fit him very badly, and he had a queer shaped little deal box fastened across his shoulder, upside down and with the lid hanging open. Alice looked at it with great curiosity. [02:32:34] Speaker B: I see you're admiring my little box. [02:32:37] Speaker A: The knight said in a friendly tone. It's my own invention to keep clothes and sandwiches in, you see. I carry it upside down so that the rain can't get in, but the things can get out, Alice gently remarked. [02:32:54] Speaker B: Do you know the lid's open? [02:32:57] Speaker A: I didn't know it, the knight said, a shade of vexation passing over his face. Then all the things must have fallen out, and the box is no use without them. He unfastened it as he spoke, and was just going to throw it into the bushes when a sudden thought seemed to strike him and he hung it carefully on a tree. Can you guess why I did that? He said to Alice. Alice shook her head. In hopes some bees may make a nest in it. Then I should get honey. [02:33:31] Speaker B: But you've got a beehive, or something. [02:33:34] Speaker A: Like one fastened to the saddle, said Alice. Yes, it's a very good beehive, the knight said in a discontented tone. [02:33:45] Speaker B: One of the best. [02:33:46] Speaker A: But not a single bee has come near it yet. And the other thing is a mousetrap. I suppose the mice keep the bees out. Or the bees keep the mice out, I don't know which. I was wondering what the mouse trap was for, said Alice. [02:34:03] Speaker B: It isn't very likely there would be any mice on the horse's back. [02:34:08] Speaker A: Not very likely, perhaps, said the knight. But if they do come, I don't choose to have them running all about, you see, he went on after a pause, it's as well to be provided for everything. That's the reason the horse has all those anklets round its feet. [02:34:28] Speaker B: But what are they for? [02:34:30] Speaker A: Alice asked in a tone of great curiosity. To guard against the bites of sharks, the knight replied. It's an invention of my own. And now help me on. I'll go with you to the end of the wood. What's the dish for? It's meant for plum cake, said Alice. We'd better take it with us, the knight said. It'll come in handy if we find any plum cake. Help me to get it into this bag. This took a very long time to manage, though. Alice held the bag open very carefully because the night was so very awkward, and in putting in the dish the first two or three times that he tried, he fell in himself instead. It's rather a tight fit, you see, he said as they got it in at last. There are so many candlesticks in the bag. And he hung it to the saddle, which was already loaded with bunches of carrots and fire irons and many other things. I hope you've got your hair well fastened on, he continued as they set off. Only in the usual way, alice said, smiling. That's hardly enough, he said anxiously. You see, the wind is so very strong here, it's as strong as soup. [02:35:48] Speaker B: Have you not invented a plan for keeping the hair from being blown off? [02:35:52] Speaker A: Alice inquired. Not yet, said the knight, but I've got a plan for keeping it from. [02:35:59] Speaker B: Falling off, I should like to hear it very much. [02:36:04] Speaker A: First you take an upright stick, said the knight. Then you make your hair creep up it like a fruit tree. Now, the reason hair falls off is because it hangs down. Things never fall upwards, you know. It's a plan of my own invention. You may try it if you like. It didn't sound a comfortable plan, Alice thought, and for a few minutes she walked on in silence, puzzling over the idea, and every now and then stopping to help the poor knight, who certainly was not a good rider. Whenever the horse stopped, which it did very often, he fell off in front, and whenever it went on again, which it generally did rather suddenly, he fell off behind. Otherwise he kept on pretty well, except that he had a habit of now and then falling off sideways, and as he generally did this on the side on which Alice was walking, she soon found that it was the best plan not to walk quite close to the horse. [02:37:07] Speaker B: I'm afraid you've not had much practice. [02:37:09] Speaker A: In riding, she ventured to say as she was helping him from his fifth tumble. The knight looked very much surprised and a little offended at the remark. What makes you say that? He asked as he scrambled back into the saddle, keeping hold of Alice's hair with one hand to save himself from falling over on the other side. [02:37:32] Speaker B: Because people don't fall off quite so often when they've had much practice. [02:37:36] Speaker A: I've had plenty of practice, the knight said very gravely. Plenty of practice. Alice could think of nothing better to say than indeed, but she said it as heartily as she could. They went on a little way in silence after this, the knight, with his eyes shut, muttering to himself and Alice watching anxiously for the next tumble. The great art of riding, the knight suddenly began in a loud voice, waving his right arm as he spoke, is to keep here. The sentence ended as suddenly as it had begun, as the knight fell heavily on the top of his head, exactly in the path where Alice was walking. She was quite frightened this time, and said in an anxious tone as she. [02:38:24] Speaker B: Picked him up, I hope no bones are broken. [02:38:27] Speaker A: None to speak of, the knight said, as if he didn't mind breaking two or three of them. The great art of riding, as I was saying, is to keep your balance properly, like this, you know. He let go the bridle and stretched out both his arms to show Alice what he meant, and this time he fell flat on his back, right under the horse's feet. Plenty of practice, he went on, repeating all the time that Alice was getting him on his feet. Again. [02:38:59] Speaker B: Plenty of practice. It's too ridiculous. [02:39:04] Speaker A: Cried Alice, losing all her patience this time. [02:39:08] Speaker B: You ought to have a wooden horse on wheels, that you ought. [02:39:12] Speaker A: Does that climb go smoothly? The knight asked in a tone of great interest, clasping his arm round the horse's neck as he spoke, just in time to save himself from tumbling off again. [02:39:26] Speaker B: Much more smoothly than a live horse. [02:39:28] Speaker A: Alice said with a little scream of laughter, in spite of all she could do to prevent it. I'll get one, the knight said thoughtfully to himself. [02:39:38] Speaker B: One or two. [02:39:39] Speaker A: Several. There was a short silence after this, and then the knight went on again. I'm a great hand at inventing things. Now, I dare say you noticed the last time you picked me up that I was looking rather thoughtful. You were a little grave, said Alice. Well then, just then I was inventing a new way of getting over a gate. Would you like to hear it? Very much indeed, Alice said politely. I'll tell you how I came to think of it, said the knight. You see, I said to myself, the only difficulty is with the feet. The head is high enough already now. First I put my head on the top of the gate, then I stand on my head. Then the feet are high enough, you see. Then I move her, you see. [02:40:32] Speaker B: Yes, I suppose you'd be over when. [02:40:34] Speaker A: That was done, Alice said thoughtfully. [02:40:38] Speaker B: But don't you think it would be rather hard? [02:40:41] Speaker A: I haven't tried it yet, the knight said gravely, so I can't tell for certain, but I'm afraid it would be a little hard. He looked so vexed at the idea that But Alice changed the subject hastily. What a curious helmet you've got, she said cheerfully. [02:40:59] Speaker B: Is that your invention, too? [02:41:01] Speaker A: The knight looked down proudly at his helmet, which hung from the saddle. Yes, he said, but I've invented a better one than that. Like a sugar loaf. When I used to wear it, if I fell off the horse, it always touched the ground directly, so I had a very little way to fall, you see. But there was the danger of falling into it, to be sure. That happened to me once, and the worst of it was, before I could get out again, the other white knight. [02:41:30] Speaker B: Came and put it on. [02:41:32] Speaker A: He thought it was his own helmet. The knight looked so solemn about it that Alice did not dare to laugh. [02:41:40] Speaker B: I'm afraid you must have hurt him. [02:41:42] Speaker A: She said in a trembling voice. [02:41:45] Speaker B: Being on the top of his head. [02:41:48] Speaker A: I had to kick him, of course, the knight said very seriously. And then he took the helmet off again. But it took hours and hours to get me out. [02:41:57] Speaker B: I was as Fast as. [02:41:59] Speaker A: As lightning, you know. But that's a different kind of fastness, Alice objected. The knight shook his head. It was all kinds of fastness with me, I can assure you, he said. He raised his hands in some excitement as he said this and instantly rolled out of the saddle and fell headlong into a deep ditch. Alice ran to the side of the ditch to look for him. She was rather startled by the fall, as for some time he had kept on very well and she was afraid that he really was hurt. This time, however, though she could see nothing but the soles of his feet, she was much relieved to hear that he was talking on in his usual tone. All kinds of fastness, he repeated, but it was careless of him to put another man's helmet on with a man in it too. [02:42:54] Speaker B: How can you go on talking so quietly? Head down? [02:42:58] Speaker A: Alice asked as she dragged him out by the feet and laid him in a heap on the bank. The knight looked surprised at the question. What does it matter where my body happens to be? He said. My mind goes on working all the same. In fact, the more head downwards I am, the more I keep inventing new things. Now the cleverest thing of the sort that I ever did, he went on after a pause, was inventing a new pudding during the meat course. [02:43:29] Speaker B: In time to have it cooked for. [02:43:30] Speaker A: The next course, said Alice. Well, not the next course, the knight said in a slow, thoughtful tone. No, certainly not the next course. [02:43:41] Speaker B: Then it would have to be the next day. I suppose you wouldn't have two pudding courses in one dinner. [02:43:47] Speaker A: Well, not the next day, the knight repeated as before, not the next day. In fact, he went on holding his head down and his voice getting lower and lower, I don't believe that pudding ever was cooked. [02:44:03] Speaker B: In fact, I don't believe that pudding. [02:44:06] Speaker A: Ever will be cooked. And yet it was a very clever pudding to invent. [02:44:11] Speaker B: What did you mean it to be made of? [02:44:13] Speaker A: Alice asked, hoping to cheer him up, for the poor knight seemed quite low spirited. About began with blotting paper, the knight answered with a groan. [02:44:25] Speaker B: That wouldn't be very nice, I'm afraid. [02:44:27] Speaker A: Not very nice alone, he interrupted quite eagerly. But you've no idea what a difference it makes mixing it with other things such as gunpowder and sealing wax and. [02:44:39] Speaker B: Here I must leave you. [02:44:41] Speaker A: They had just come to the end of the wood. Alice could only look puzzled. She was thinking of the pudding. You are sad, the knight said in an anxious tone. Let me sing ye a song to comfort you. [02:44:56] Speaker B: Is it very long? [02:44:58] Speaker A: Alice asked, for she had heard A good deal of poetry that day. It's long, said the knight, but very, very beautiful. Everybody that hears me sing it. Either it brings their tears into their eyes or else. [02:45:14] Speaker B: Or else what? [02:45:15] Speaker A: Said Alice, for the knight had made a sudden pause. Or else it doesn't, you know. The name of the song is called Haddock's Eyes. [02:45:27] Speaker B: Oh, that's the name of the song, is it? [02:45:30] Speaker A: Alice said, trying to feel interested. No, you don't understand, the knight said, looking a little vexed. That's what the name is called. The name really is the Aged, Aged Man. [02:45:44] Speaker B: Then I ought to have said that's what the song is called. [02:45:48] Speaker A: Alice corrected herself. No, you oughtn't. That's quite another thing. This song is called Ways and Means. But that's only what it's called, you know. [02:45:59] Speaker B: Well, what is the song, then? [02:46:01] Speaker A: Said Alice, who was by this time completely bewildered. I was coming to that, the knight said. The song really is a sitting on a gate, and the tune's my own invention. So saying, he stopped his horse and let the reins fall on its neck. Then, slowly beating time with one hand, and with a faint smile lighting up his gentle, foolish face, as if he enjoyed the music of his song, he began. Of all the strange things that Alice saw in her journey through the looking glass, this was the one that she always remembered most clearly. Years afterwards, she could bring the whole scene back again as if it had been only yesterday. The mild blue eyes and kindly smile of the night, the setting sun gleaming through his hair and the shining on his armour in a blue blaze of light that quite dazzled her. The horse quietly moving about with the reins hanging loose on his neck, cropping the grass at her feet and the black shadows of the forest behind. All this she took in like a picture, as with one hand shading her eyes, she leant against a tree, watching the strange pair and listening in a half dream to. To the melancholy music of the song. [02:47:26] Speaker B: But the tune isn't his own invention. [02:47:30] Speaker A: She said to herself. [02:47:31] Speaker B: It's I give thee all I can. No more. [02:47:36] Speaker A: She stood and listened very attentively, but no tears came into her eyes. I'll tell thee everything I can. There's little to relate. I saw an aged, aged man sitting on a gate. Who are you, aged man? I said, and how is it you live? And his answer trickled through my head like water through a sieve. He said, I look for butterflies that sleep among the wheat. I make them into mutton pies and. [02:48:10] Speaker B: Sell them in the street. [02:48:12] Speaker A: I sell the mun to Men, he said, who. Who sail on stormy seas. And that's the way I get my bread. [02:48:20] Speaker B: A trifle, if you please. [02:48:23] Speaker A: But I was thinking of a plan to dye one's whiskers green and always use so large a fan that they could not be seen. So, having no reply to give to what the old man said, I cried, come, tell me how you live. And thumped him on the head. His accent, my old took up the tale. He said, I go my ways, and when I find a mountain riddle, I set it in a blaze, and thence they make a stuff they call Roland's Macassar oil yet up and satany is all they give me for my toil. But I was thinking of a way to feed oneself on battery, and so go on from day to day getting a little fatter. I shook him well from side to side until his face was blue. Come, tell me how you live, I cried. And what is it you do? He said, I hunt for Haddock's eyes. [02:49:25] Speaker B: Among the heather bright, and work them. [02:49:27] Speaker A: Into waistcoat buttons in the silent night. And these I do not sell for gold or coin of silvery shine, but for a copper halfpenny, and that will purchase nine. I sometimes dig for butted rolls, or set line twigs for crabs. I sometimes search the grassy knolls for wheels of handsome cabs. And that's the way he gave a wink, but which I get my wealth, and very gladly will I drink your honour's noble health. I heard him then, for I had just completed my design to keep the men I bridge from rust by boiling it in wine. I thanked him much for telling me the way he got his wealth, but chiefly for his wish that he might drink my noble health. And now, if ere by chance I put my fingers into glue, or madly squeeze a right hand foot into a left hand shoe, or if I drop upon my toe a very heavy weight, I weep, for it reminds me so of that old man I used to know, Whose look was mild, whose speech was slow, whose hair was whiter than the snow, whose face was very like a crow, with eyes like cinders all aglow, who seemed distracted with his woe, who rocked his his body to and fro and muttered mumblingly and low as if his mouth were full of dough, who snorted like a buffalo. That summer evening long ago, a sitting on a gate as the knight sang the last words of the ballad, he gathered up the reins and turned his horse's head along the road by which they had come. You've only a few yards to go, he said, down the hill and over that little brook, and then you'll be a queen. But you'll stay and see me off first, he added, as Alice turned with an eager look in the direction to which he pointed. I shan't be long. You'll wait and wave your handkerchief when I get to that turn in the road. I think it'll encourage me, you see. Of course I will, said Alice. [02:51:44] Speaker B: And thank you very much for coming so far and for the song. I liked it very much. [02:51:49] Speaker A: I hope so, the knight said doubtfully. But you didn't cry so much as I thought you would. So they shook hands, and the knight rode slowly away into the forest. [02:52:00] Speaker B: It won't take long to see him. [02:52:01] Speaker A: Off, I expect, alice said to herself as she stood watching him. [02:52:07] Speaker B: There he goes, right on his head as usual. However, he gets on again pretty easily. That comes of having so many things hung round the horse. [02:52:18] Speaker A: So she went on talking to herself as she watched the horse walking leisurely along the road and the knight tumbling off, first on one side and then on the other. After the fourth or fifth tumble he reached the turn, and then she waved her handkerchief to him and waited till till he was out of sight. I hope it encouraged him, she said as she turned to run down the hill. [02:52:41] Speaker B: And now for the last brook and to be a queen. How grand it sounds. [02:52:46] Speaker A: A very few steps brought her to. [02:52:48] Speaker B: The edge of The Brook, the 8th square. At last. [02:52:52] Speaker A: She cried as she bounded over and threw herself down to rest on a lawn as soft as moss, with little flower beds dotted about it here and there. [02:53:03] Speaker B: Oh, how glad I am to get here. And what is this on my head? [02:53:08] Speaker A: She exclaimed in a tone of dismay as she put her hands up to something very heavy and fitted tight all round her head. [02:53:17] Speaker B: But how can it have got there without me knowing it? [02:53:21] Speaker A: She said to herself as she lifted it off and sat it on her lap to make out what it could possibly be. It was a golden crown. Chapter 8 Chapter 9 of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll Queen Alice well, this is grand, said Alice. [02:53:54] Speaker B: I never expected I should be a queen so soon, and I tell you. [02:53:58] Speaker A: What it is, your majesty, she went on in a severe tone. She was always rather fond of scolding herself. [02:54:06] Speaker B: It'll never do for you to be lolling about on the grass like that. Queens have to be dignified, you know. [02:54:14] Speaker A: So she got up and walked about rather stiffly, just at first as she was afraid that the crown might come off, but she comforted herself with the thought that there was nobody to See her. [02:54:27] Speaker B: And if I really am a Queen. [02:54:30] Speaker A: She said as she sat down again. [02:54:32] Speaker B: I should be able to manage it quite well in time. [02:54:36] Speaker A: Everything was happening so oddly that she didn't feel a bit surprised at finding the Red Queen and the White Queen sitting close to her, one on each side. She would have liked very much to ask them how they came there, but she feared it would not be quite civil. However, there would be no harm, she thought, in asking if the game was over. Please, would you tell me, she began, looking timidly at the Red Queen. [02:55:08] Speaker B: Speak well you are spoken to. [02:55:11] Speaker A: The Queen sharply interrupted her. But if everyone obeyed that rule, said Alice, who was always ready for a little argument, and if you only spoke. [02:55:23] Speaker B: When you were spoken to, and the other person always waited for you to begin, you see, nobody would ever say anything so that ridiculous. [02:55:33] Speaker A: Cried the Queen. Why don't you see, child here she broke off with a frown, and after thinking for a minute, suddenly changed the subject of the conversation. [02:55:46] Speaker B: What do you mean by if you really are a queen? What right have you to call yourself so? You can't be a queen, you know, till you've passed the proper examination, and the sooner we begin it, the better. [02:56:03] Speaker A: I only said if, poor Alice pleaded in a piteous tone. The two Queens looked at each other, and the Red Queen remarked with a little shudder, she says she only said if. [02:56:19] Speaker B: But she said a great deal more. [02:56:20] Speaker A: Than that, The White Queen moaned, wringing her hands. Oh, ever so much more than that. So you did, you know, the Red Queen said to Alice, always speak the truth. [02:56:32] Speaker B: Think before you speak and write it down afterwards. I'm sure I didn't mean. [02:56:39] Speaker A: Alice was beginning, but the Red Queen interrupted her impatiently. [02:56:44] Speaker B: That's just what I complain of. You should have meant, what do you suppose is the use of a child without any meaning? Even a joke should have some meaning, and a child's more important than a joke, and I hope you wouldn't deny that even if you tried with both hands. [02:57:05] Speaker A: I don't deny things with my hands, Alice objected. Nobody said you did, said the Red Queen. [02:57:14] Speaker B: I said you couldn't if you tried. [02:57:17] Speaker A: She's in that state of mind, said the White Queen, that she wants to. [02:57:21] Speaker B: Deny something only she doesn't know what to deny. [02:57:26] Speaker A: A nasty, vicious temper, the Red Queen remarked, and then there was an uncomfortable silence for a minute or two. The Red Queen broke the silence by saying to the White, I invite you. [02:57:40] Speaker B: To Alice's dinner party this afternoon. [02:57:44] Speaker A: The White Queen smiled feebly and said. [02:57:47] Speaker B: And I invite you. I Didn't know I was to have. [02:57:52] Speaker A: A party at all, said Alice. [02:57:55] Speaker B: But if there is to be one, I think I ought to invite the guests. We gave you the opportunity of doing. [02:58:02] Speaker A: It, the Red Queen remarked. [02:58:04] Speaker B: But I dare say you've not had many lessons in manners yet. [02:58:09] Speaker A: Manners are not taught in lessons, said Alice. [02:58:13] Speaker B: Lessons teach you to do sums and things of that sort of. And you to addition. [02:58:19] Speaker A: The White Queen asked. [02:58:21] Speaker B: What's 1 and 1 and 1 and 1 and 1, 1 and 1 and 1 and 1? [02:58:29] Speaker A: I don't know, said Alice. [02:58:32] Speaker B: I lost count. [02:58:34] Speaker A: She can't do addition, the Red Queen interrupted. [02:58:39] Speaker B: Can you do subtraction? Take nine from eight. Nine from eight. [02:58:45] Speaker A: I can't, you know, Alice replied very readily. But she can't do subtraction, said the White Queen. Can you do division? [02:58:55] Speaker B: Divide a loaf by a knife. What's the answer to that? [02:58:59] Speaker A: I suppose Alice was beginning, but the Red Queen answered for her. [02:59:05] Speaker B: Bread and butter, of course. Try another subtraction sum. Take a bone from a dog. What remains? [02:59:14] Speaker A: Alice considered. [02:59:16] Speaker B: The bone would remain, of course, if I took it, and the dog wouldn't remain, it would come to bite me, and I'm sure I shouldn't remain. Then you think nothing would remain? [02:59:28] Speaker A: Said the Red Queen. [02:59:30] Speaker B: I think that's the answer. [02:59:33] Speaker A: Wrong as usual, said the Red Queen. [02:59:37] Speaker B: The dog's temper would remain, but I don't see how. Why, look here. [02:59:44] Speaker A: The Red Queen cried. [02:59:46] Speaker B: The dog would lose its temper, wouldn't it? [02:59:50] Speaker A: Perhaps it would, Alice replied cautiously. [02:59:54] Speaker B: Then if the dog went away, its temper would remain. [02:59:58] Speaker A: The Queen exclaimed triumphantly. Alice said as gravely as she could. [03:00:06] Speaker B: They might go different ways. [03:00:08] Speaker A: But she couldn't help thinking to herself. [03:00:11] Speaker B: What dreadful nonsense we are talking. She can't do sums a bit, the. [03:00:18] Speaker A: Queens said together with great emphasis. [03:00:22] Speaker B: Can you do sums? [03:00:24] Speaker A: Alice said, turning suddenly on the White Queen, for she didn't like being found fault with so much. The Queen gasped and shut her eyes. [03:00:37] Speaker B: I can do addition if you give me time, but I can't do subtraction under any circumstances. Of course you know your A, B. [03:00:46] Speaker A: C, said the Red Queen. To be sure I do, said Alice. So do I, the White Queen whispered. [03:00:56] Speaker B: We'll often say it over together, dear, and I'll tell you a secret. I can read words of one letter. Isn't that grand? However, don't be discouraged. You'll come to it in time. [03:01:10] Speaker A: Here. The Red Queen began again. [03:01:12] Speaker B: Can you answer useful questions? [03:01:15] Speaker A: She said. [03:01:16] Speaker B: How is bread made? I know that. [03:01:21] Speaker A: Alice cried eagerly. [03:01:23] Speaker B: You take some flour where do you pick the flower? [03:01:27] Speaker A: The White Queen asked. [03:01:29] Speaker B: In the garden or in the hedges? [03:01:32] Speaker A: Well, it isn't picked at all, Alice explained. [03:01:36] Speaker B: It's ground. How many acres of ground? [03:01:41] Speaker A: Said the White Queen. [03:01:42] Speaker B: You mustn't leave out so many things. [03:01:45] Speaker A: Fan her head, the Red Queen anxiously interrupted. [03:01:50] Speaker B: She'll be feverish after so much thinking. [03:01:54] Speaker A: So they set to work and fanned her with bunches of leaves till she had to beg them to leave off. It blew her hair about. [03:02:01] Speaker B: So she is all right again. [03:02:04] Speaker A: Now, said the Red Queen, do you know languages? [03:02:09] Speaker B: What's the French for fiddle dee dee? Fiddle ti. [03:02:14] Speaker A: Tea's not English, Alice replied gravely. [03:02:18] Speaker B: Who ever said it was? [03:02:20] Speaker A: Said the Red Queen. Alice thought she saw a way out of the difficulty this time. [03:02:26] Speaker B: If you tell me what language fiddle de dee is, I'll tell you the French for it. [03:02:33] Speaker A: She exclaimed triumphantly. But the Red Queen drew herself up rather stiffly and said, queens never make bargains. I wish queens never asked questions, Alice thought to herself. Don't let us quarrel, the White Queen said in an anxious tone. [03:02:55] Speaker B: What is the cause of lightning? [03:02:58] Speaker A: The cause of lightning, Alice said very decidedly, for she felt quite certain about this, is thunder. No, no, she hastily corrected herself. [03:03:11] Speaker B: I meant the other way. [03:03:13] Speaker A: It's too late to correct it, said the Red Queen. When you've once said a thing, that. [03:03:19] Speaker B: Fixes it, and you must take the consequences. [03:03:24] Speaker A: Which reminds me, the White Queen said, looking down and nervously clasping and unclasping her hands, we had such a thunderstorm last Tuesday. [03:03:35] Speaker B: I mean. I mean one of the last set of Tuesdays, you know. [03:03:40] Speaker A: Alice was puzzled. In our country, she remarked, there's only one day at a time, the Red Queen said. [03:03:50] Speaker B: That's a poor, thin way of doing things. Now here we mostly have days and nights to two or three at a time. And sometimes in the winter we take as many as five nights together for warmth, you know. Are five nights warmer than one night then? [03:04:11] Speaker A: Alice ventured to ask. [03:04:13] Speaker B: Five times as warm, of course. But they should be five times as cold by the same rule. Just so. [03:04:22] Speaker A: Cried the Queen. [03:04:23] Speaker B: Five times as warm as. And five times as cold. Just as I'm five times as rich as you are and five times as clever. [03:04:33] Speaker A: Alice sighed and gave it up. [03:04:36] Speaker B: It's exactly like a riddle with no answer, she thought. [03:04:41] Speaker A: Humpty Dumpty has all it, too, the White Queen went on in a low voice, more as if she were talking to herself. [03:04:49] Speaker B: He came to the door with a. [03:04:51] Speaker A: Corkscrew in his hand. [03:04:53] Speaker C: What did he want? [03:04:55] Speaker A: Said the Red Queen. [03:04:56] Speaker B: He said he would come in, the. [03:04:59] Speaker A: White Queen went on, because he was. [03:05:01] Speaker B: Looking for a hippopotamus. Now, as it happened, there wasn't such a thing in the house that morning, is there generally? [03:05:11] Speaker A: Alice asked in astonishment. Well, only on Thursdays, said the Queen. I know what he came for, said Alice. [03:05:22] Speaker B: He wanted to punish the fish, because. [03:05:26] Speaker A: Here the White Queen began again, it was such a thunderstorm. [03:05:31] Speaker B: You can't think she never could, you. [03:05:34] Speaker A: Know, said the Red Queen, and part. [03:05:37] Speaker B: Of the roof came off and ever. [03:05:39] Speaker A: So much thunder got in and it. [03:05:41] Speaker B: Went rolling round the room in great lumps and knocking over the tables and things till I was so frightened I couldn't remember my own name. [03:05:51] Speaker A: Alice thought to herself, I never should. [03:05:55] Speaker B: Try to remember my name in the middle of an accident. What would be the use of it? [03:06:01] Speaker A: But she did not say this aloud for fear of hurting the poor Queen's feelings. Your Majesty must excuse her, the Red Queen said to Alice, taking one of the White Queen's hands in her own and gently stroking it. [03:06:17] Speaker B: She means well, but she can't help. [03:06:20] Speaker C: Saying foolish things as a general rule. [03:06:24] Speaker A: The White Queen looked timidly at Alice, who felt she ought to say something kind, but really couldn't think of anything at the moment. [03:06:34] Speaker C: She never was really well brought up. [03:06:37] Speaker A: The Red Queen went on, but it's. [03:06:40] Speaker B: Amazing how good tempered she is. Pat her on the head and see. [03:06:45] Speaker C: How pleased she'll be. [03:06:47] Speaker A: But this was more than Alice had courage to do. [03:06:51] Speaker C: A little kindness, and putting her hair. [03:06:54] Speaker B: In papers would do wonders with her. [03:06:58] Speaker A: The White Queen gave a deep sigh and laid her head on Alice's shoulder. I am so sleepy, she moaned. She is tired, poor thing, said the Red Queen. [03:07:12] Speaker B: Smooth her hair, lend her your nightcap, and sing her a soothing lullaby. I haven't got a nightcap with me. [03:07:22] Speaker A: Said Alice, as she tried to obey the first direction. [03:07:26] Speaker B: And I don't know any soothing lullabies. [03:07:29] Speaker A: I must do it myself then, said the Red Queen, and she began, Hush. [03:07:37] Speaker B: My Lady, in Alice's lap till the feast ready. [03:07:42] Speaker C: We've time for a nap. When the feast's over we'll go to. [03:07:47] Speaker B: The ball, Red Queen and White Queen. [03:07:51] Speaker C: And Alice and all. [03:07:54] Speaker A: And now you know the words, she added as she put her head down on Alice's other shoulder. [03:08:02] Speaker B: Just sing it through to me. I'm getting sleepy too. [03:08:07] Speaker A: In another moment both Queens were fast asleep and snoring loud. [03:08:13] Speaker B: What am I to do? [03:08:15] Speaker A: Exclaimed Alice, looking about in great perplexity, as first one round head and then the other rolled down from her shoulder and and lay like a heavy lump in her lap. [03:08:27] Speaker B: I don't think it ever happened before that anyone had to take care of two queens asleep at once. No, not in all the history of England. It couldn't, you know, because there never was more than one queen at a time. Do wake up, you heavy things, she. [03:08:45] Speaker A: Went on in an impatient tone, but there was no answer but a gentle snoring. The snoring got more distinct every minute and sounded more like a tune. At last she could even make out the words, and she listened so eagerly that when the two great heads vanished from her lap, she hardly missed them. She was standing before an arched doorway over which were the words Queen Alice in large letters, and on each side of the arch there was a bell handle. One was marked Visitors Bell, and the other Servants Bell. [03:09:26] Speaker B: Ill wait till the song's over, thought Alice, and then I'll ring the which bell must I ring? [03:09:33] Speaker A: She went on, very much puzzled by the names. [03:09:38] Speaker B: I'm not a visitor and I'm not a servant. There ought to be one marked Queen, you know. [03:09:45] Speaker A: Just then the door opened a little way, and a creature with a long beak put its head out for a moment, and no admittances till the week after next, and shut the door again with a bang. Alice knocked and rang in vain for a long time, but at last a very old frog who was sitting under a tree got up and hobbled slowly towards her. He was dressed in bright yellow and had enormous boots on. [03:10:15] Speaker C: What is it now? [03:10:17] Speaker A: The frog said in a deep, hoarse voice. Alice turned round, ready to find fault with anybody. [03:10:25] Speaker B: Where's the servant whose business it is to answer the door? [03:10:29] Speaker A: She began angrily. [03:10:32] Speaker C: Which door? [03:10:33] Speaker A: Said the frog. Alice, always almost stamped with irritation at the slow drawl in which he spoke. [03:10:40] Speaker B: This door, of course. [03:10:42] Speaker A: The frog looked at the door with his large dull eyes for a minute. Then he went nearer and rubbed it with his thumb, as if he were trying whether the paint would come off. Then he looked at Alice. [03:10:55] Speaker C: Did you answer the door? [03:10:58] Speaker A: He said. [03:11:00] Speaker C: What's it been asking of? [03:11:03] Speaker A: He was so hoarse that Alice could scarcely hear him. I don't know what you mean, she said. I talks English, doesn't I? The frog went on. [03:11:15] Speaker C: Or are you deaf? [03:11:17] Speaker A: What did it ask you? Nothing, alice said impatiently. [03:11:23] Speaker B: I've been knocking at it. [03:11:26] Speaker C: Shouldn't do that. [03:11:27] Speaker A: Shouldn't do that, the frog muttered. [03:11:30] Speaker C: Vexes it, you know. [03:11:33] Speaker A: Then he went up and gave the door a kick with one of his great feet. You let it alone, he panted out as he hobbled back to his tree. [03:11:43] Speaker C: And I'll let you alone, you know. [03:11:48] Speaker A: At this moment the door was flung open and a shrill voice was heard. [03:11:52] Speaker B: Singing to the looking glass world. It was Alice. They said, I've a scepter in hand. I've a crown on my head. Let the looking glass creatures, whatever they be, come and dine with the Red Queen, the White Queen and me. [03:12:09] Speaker A: And hundreds of voices joined in the chorus. [03:12:12] Speaker C: Then fill up the glasses as quick as you can and sprinkle the table. [03:12:17] Speaker A: With buttons and bran. [03:12:19] Speaker C: Put cats in the coffee and mice. [03:12:21] Speaker A: In the tea, and welcome Queen Alice with 30 times 3. Then followed a confusing noise of cheering. And Alice thought to herself, 30 times 3 makes 90. [03:12:35] Speaker B: I wonder if anyone's counting. [03:12:38] Speaker A: In a minute there was silence again, and the same shrill voice sang another verse. [03:12:44] Speaker B: O looking glass creatures, Quoth Alice, draw near. Tis an honour to see me, a favour to hear. Tis a privilege to have dinner and tea along with the Red Queen, the White Queen and me. [03:13:01] Speaker A: Then came the chorus again. [03:13:03] Speaker C: Then fill up the glasses with treacle. [03:13:06] Speaker A: And ink or anything else that is pleasant to drink. [03:13:10] Speaker C: Mix sand with the cider and wool with the wine, and welcome Queen Alice. [03:13:14] Speaker A: With 90 times 9. [03:13:17] Speaker B: 90 times 9? [03:13:19] Speaker A: Alice repeated in despair. [03:13:21] Speaker B: Oh, that'll never be done. I'd better go in at once. [03:13:26] Speaker A: And there was a dead silence the moment she appeared. Alice glanced nervously along the table as she walked up the large hall and noticed that There were about 50 guests of all kinds. Some were animals, some birds, and there were even a few flowers among them. [03:13:45] Speaker B: I'm glad they've come without waiting to. [03:13:47] Speaker A: Be asked, she thought. [03:13:50] Speaker B: I should never have known who were the right people to invite. [03:13:54] Speaker A: There were three chairs at the head of the table. The Red and White Queen had already taken two of them, but the middle one was empty. Alice sat down in it, rather uncomfortable in the silence and longing for someone to speak. At last the Red Queen began. You've missed the soup and fish, she said. Put on the joint, and the waiters set a leg of mutton before Alice, who looked at it rather anxiously as she had never had to carve a joint before. [03:14:28] Speaker B: You look a little shy. [03:14:29] Speaker A: Let me introduce you to that leg of mutton, said the Red Queen. [03:14:34] Speaker B: Alice. [03:14:35] Speaker C: Mutton. [03:14:35] Speaker B: Mutton, Alice. [03:14:38] Speaker A: The leg of mutton got up in the dish and made a little bow to Alice. And Alice returned the bow, not knowing whether to be frightened or amused. [03:14:48] Speaker B: May I give you a slice? [03:14:50] Speaker A: She asked, taking up the knife and fork and looking from one Queen to the other. [03:14:55] Speaker B: Certainly not. [03:14:57] Speaker A: The Red Queen said very decidedly, it. [03:15:01] Speaker B: Isn'T etiquette to cut anyone you've been introduced to. Remove the joint. [03:15:06] Speaker A: And the waiters carried it off and brought a large plum pudding in its place. [03:15:13] Speaker B: I won't be introduced to the pudding. [03:15:14] Speaker A: Please, said Alice rather hastily, or we. [03:15:18] Speaker B: Shall get no dinner at all. May I give you some? [03:15:22] Speaker A: But the Red Queen looked sulky and growled, pudding, Alice, Alice, pudding. Remove the pudding. And the waiters took it away so quickly that Alice couldn't return its bow. However, she didn't see why the Red Queen should be the only one to give orders. So as an experiment, she called out. [03:15:44] Speaker B: Waiter, bring back the pudding. [03:15:48] Speaker A: And there it was again, in a moment like a conjuring trick. It was so large that she couldn't help feeling a little shy with it, as she had been with the mutton. However, she conquered her shyness by a great effort and cut a slice and handed it to the Red Queen. What impertinence. Said the pudding. [03:16:08] Speaker C: I wonder how you'd like it if I were to cut a slice out of you. You, you creature. [03:16:14] Speaker A: It spoke in a thick, suety sort of voice, and Alice hadn't a word to say in reply. She could only sit and look at it and gasp. Make a remark, said the Red Queen. [03:16:27] Speaker C: It's ridiculous to leave all the conversation to the pudding. [03:16:32] Speaker B: Do you know, I've had such a quantity of poetry repeated to me to day. [03:16:37] Speaker A: Alice began, a little frightened at finding that the moment she opened her lips there was dead silence, and all eyes were fixed upon her. [03:16:48] Speaker B: And it's a very curious thing. I think every poem was about fishes in some way. Do you know why they are so fond of fishes all about here. [03:16:58] Speaker A: She spoke to the Red Queen, whose answer was a little wide of the mark. As to fishes, she said very slowly and solemnly, putting her mouth close to Alice's ear, her White Majesty knows a. [03:17:14] Speaker B: Lovely riddle, all in poetry, all about fishes. Shall she repeat it? Her Red Majesty's very kind to mention it. [03:17:23] Speaker A: The White Queen murmured into Alice's other ear in a voice like the cooing of a pigeon. [03:17:30] Speaker B: It would be such a treat. May I? [03:17:33] Speaker A: Please do, Alice said very politely. The White Queen laughed with delight and stroked Alice's cheek. Then she began. [03:17:42] Speaker B: First the fish must be caught that is easy. [03:17:45] Speaker A: A baby, I think, could have caught it. [03:17:48] Speaker B: Next, the fish must be bought that is easy. A penny, I think, would have bought it. [03:17:54] Speaker A: Now cook me the fish that is. [03:17:56] Speaker B: Easy and will not take more than a minute. Let it lie in a dish that is easy. Because it already is in it. Bring it here. Let me sup. It is easy to set such a dish on the table. Take the dish, cover up. Ah, that is so hard that I fear I am unable for it. Holds it like glue, holds the lid to the dish while it lies in the middle, which is easiest to do undish? Cover the fish or dish, Cover the riddle. Take a minute to think about it. [03:18:31] Speaker A: And then guess, said the Red Queen. [03:18:35] Speaker B: Meanwhile, we'll drink your health, Queen Alice's health. [03:18:39] Speaker A: She screamed at the top of her voice, and all the guests began drinking it. Directly and very queerly they managed it. Some of them put their glasses upon their heads like extinguishers and and drank all that trickled down their faces. Others upset the decanters and drank the wine as it ran off the edges of the table. And three of them, who looked like kangaroos, scrambled into the dish of roast mutton and began eagerly lapping up the gravy. Just like pigs in a trough, thought Alice. [03:19:12] Speaker B: You ought to return thanks in a. [03:19:14] Speaker A: Neat speech, the Red Queen said, but frowning at Alice as she spoke. [03:19:20] Speaker B: We must support you, you know, the. [03:19:23] Speaker A: White Queen whispered as Alice got up to do it, very obediently, but a little frightened. Thank you very much, she whispered in reply, but I can do quite well without that wouldn't be at all a thing, the Red Queen said, very decidedly so Alice tried to submit to it with a good grace, and they did push. So she said afterwards, when she was telling her sister the history of the feast. [03:19:52] Speaker B: You would have thought they wanted to squeeze me flat. [03:19:56] Speaker A: In fact, it was rather difficult for her to keep in her place while she made her speech. The two queens pushed her so, one on each side, that they nearly lifted her up into the air. I rise to return thanks, Alice began, and she really did rise as she spoke several inches, but she got hold of the edge of the table and managed to pull herself down again. [03:20:21] Speaker B: Take care of yourself. [03:20:23] Speaker A: Screamed the White Queen, seizing Alice's hair with both her hands. [03:20:28] Speaker B: Something's going to happen. [03:20:31] Speaker A: And then, as Alice afterwards described it, all sorts of things happened in a moment. The candles all grew up to the ceiling, looking something like a bed of rushes, with fireworks at the top. As to the bottles, they each took a pair of plates, which they hastily fitted on as wings, and so with forks for legs, went fluttering about in all directions. And very like birds they look, Alice thought to herself as well as she could in the dreadful confusion that was beginning at this moment. She heard a hoarse laugh at her side and turned to See what was the matter with the White Queen. But instead of the Queen there was the leg of mutton sitting in the chair. [03:21:18] Speaker B: Here I am. [03:21:19] Speaker A: Cried a voice from the soup tureen, and Alice turned again just in time to see the Queen's broad good natured face grinning at her for a moment over the edge of the tureen before she disappeared into the soup. There was not a moment to be lost. Already several of the guests were lying down in the dishes and the soup ladle was walking up the table towards Alice's chair and beckoning to her impatiently to get out of the way. [03:21:49] Speaker B: I can't stand this any longer. [03:21:52] Speaker A: She cried as she jumped up and seized the tablecloth with both hands. One good pull and plates, dishes, guests and candles came crashing down together in a heap on the floor. And as for you, she went on, turning fiercely upon the Red Queen, whom she considered as the cause of all the mischief. But the Queen was no longer at her side. She had suddenly dwindled down to the size of a little dollar, and was now on the table merrily running round and round after her own shawl, which was trailing behind her. At any other time Alice would have felt surprised at this, but she was far too much excited to be surprised at anything now. As for you, she repeated, catching hold of the little creature in the very act of jumping over a bottle which which had just lighted upon the table. [03:22:51] Speaker B: I'll shake you into a kitten, that I will. [03:22:55] Speaker A: End of Chapter 9 Chapter 10 of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll. [03:23:08] Speaker B: Shaking. [03:23:11] Speaker A: She took her off the table as she spoke, and shook her backwards and forward, forwards with all her might. The Red Queen made no resistance whatever, only her face grew very small and her eyes got large and green and still as Alice went on shaking her, she kept on growing shorter and fatter and softer and rounder and. End of Chapter 10 Chapter 11 of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll Waking and it really was a kitten after all. End of Chapter 11 Chapter 12 of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll which dreamed it. [03:24:21] Speaker B: Your Majesty shouldn't purr so loud, Alice. [03:24:24] Speaker A: Said, rubbing her eyes and addressing the kitten respectfully, yet with some severity. [03:24:32] Speaker B: You woke me out of oh, such a nice dream. And you've been along with me, kitty, all through the looking glass world. Did you know it, dear? [03:24:43] Speaker A: It is a very inconvenient habit of kittens. Alice had once made the remark that whatever you say to them, they always purr. [03:24:53] Speaker B: If they would only purr for yes, a mew for no, or any rule of that sort. [03:25:01] Speaker A: She had said so that one could. [03:25:03] Speaker B: Keep up a conversation. But how can you talk with a person if they always say the same thing? [03:25:12] Speaker A: On this occasion the kitten only purred, and it was impossible to guess whether it meant yes or no. So Alice hunted among the chessmen on the table till she had found the Red Queen. Then she went down on her knees on the hearth rug and put the kitten and the Queen to look at each other. [03:25:33] Speaker B: Now Kitty. [03:25:35] Speaker A: She cried, clapping her hands triumphantly. [03:25:39] Speaker B: Confess that was what you turned into. But it wouldn't look at it, she. [03:25:45] Speaker A: Said when she was explaining the thing afterwards to her sister, it turned away. [03:25:50] Speaker B: Its head and pretended not to see it, but it looks a little ashamed of itself, so I think it must have been the Red Queen. Sit up a little more stiffly, dear. [03:26:02] Speaker A: Alice cried with a merry laugh and curtsey. [03:26:06] Speaker B: While you're thinking what to what to purr, it saves time, remember? [03:26:12] Speaker A: And she caught it up and gave it one little kiss. [03:26:17] Speaker B: Just in honour of of having been a Red Queen. [03:26:22] Speaker A: Snowdrop, my pet, she went on, looking over her shoulder at the white kitten, which was still patiently undergoing its toilet. [03:26:32] Speaker B: When will Dinah have finished with your White Majesty, I wonder. That must be the reason you were so untidy in my dream. Dinah. Do you know that you are scrubbing a White Queen? Really, its most disrespectful of you. And what did Dinah turn to, I wonder? [03:26:50] Speaker A: She prattled on as she settled comfortably down with one elbow in the rug and her chin in her hand to watch the kittens. [03:26:59] Speaker B: Tell me, Dinah, did you turn to Humpty Dumpty? I think you did. However, you'd better not mention it to your friends just yet, for I'm not sure. By the way, Kitty, if only you'd been really with me in my dream, there was one thing you would have enjoyed. I had such a quantity of poetry said to me all about fishes. Tomorrow morning you shall have a real treat. All the time you're eating your breakfast, I'll repeat the Walrus and the Carpenter to you, and then you can make believe it's oysters, dear. Now Kitty, let's consider who it was that dreamed it all. This is a serious question, my dear, and you should not go on licking your paw like that as if Dinah hadn't washed you this morning. You see, Kitty, it must have been either me or the Red King. He was part of my dream, of course, but then I was part of his dream too. Was it the Red King, Kitty? You were his wife, my dear, so you ought to know. Oh, Kitty, do help to settle it. I'm sure your paw can wait. [03:28:18] Speaker A: But the provoking kitten only began on the other paw and pretended it hadn't heard the question. Which do you think it was? A boat. Beneath the sunny sky Lingering onward dreamily in an evening of July. Children three that nestle near Eager eye and willing ear pleased A simple tale to hear Long has paled that sunny sky. Echoes fade and memories die. Autumn frosts have slain July. Still she haunts me. Phantom wise Alice Moving under skies never seen by waking eyes. Children yet the tale to hear Eager eye and willing ear Lovingly shall nestle near In a wonderland they lie Dreaming as the days go by Dreaming as the summers die in ever drifting down the stream Lingering in the golden gleam. Life. What is it but to dream? THE END end of chapter 12 end of through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll.